Most BigLaw firms offer a broad array of benefits, including to meet important needs for caregiving for children. But there is still a large gap in many firms for lawyers and other professionals when it comes to benefits that assist in meeting broader family needs, including when it comes to caring for parents, adult dependents, spoues and other family members. In this episode, I speak with Thomas Adrian, who leads HR and wellness at Sheppard Mullin, a firm which has adopted one of the most comprehensive programs in BigLaw to address overall family caregiver needs. We talking about how Sheppard Mullin's partnership with HomeThrive helps lawyers and other professional staff to handle real-life carer responsibilities without having to sacrifice their careers.

Thomas walks through how the program works, including how it is structured to avoid red tape, and how it delivers tangible ROI through increased retention, better productivity, and stronger firm culture. For firms that want to lead in talent strategy, and attorneys looking for better ways to share with their firms how to meet this challenge in the marketplace, this episode is worth a close listen.

At a Glance:
00:00 Why adult caregiving needs more attention in law firm benefits
01:46 Key statistics on working caregivers and the impact on careers
03:07 Sheppard Mullin’s motivation to address caregiving needs
04:20 How the firm began identifying caregiving as a wellness priority
07:13 Why Sheppard Mullin chose Homethrive and how the program works
09:46 Real-life examples of remote caregiving support across the U.S.
11:09 The range of support Homethrive offers beyond elder care
12:25 How Sheppard Mullin defines “family” inclusively
14:15 How the program has been leveraged by those who benefit from it
15:16 Impact stories from attorneys and staff who avoided burnout or resignation
16:40 Extending the benefit to all employees—not just lawyers
17:59 Gaining leadership buy-in for progressive benefits
19:23 ROI vs. Return on Value: how the firm measures program success
20:50 Billing more hours thanks to offloaded caregiving logistics
22:07 Vendor collaboration: why integration across wellness programs matters
24:16 How word-of-mouth drives adoption across practice groups
25:11 Why Sheppard Mullin is committed to leading in this area
26:21 Thomas’s personal passion and family experience that inspires his work

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomadrian/
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https://homethrive.com/

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When you’ve been assured you’re “on track” for partnership, but still don’t have a clear timeline, it’s time to push for specifics. In this episode, I walk through how to navigate one of the most sensitive—but critical—conversations in Big Law: asking WHEN you’ll actually be put up for partner. I lay out the right questions to ask, the right people to approach, and how to handle vague responses or firm-wide delays that stall your trajectory. If you’ve been hearing encouragement without clarity, this episode gives you the tools to stop guessing and start getting real answers. Because timing is everything.

At a Glance:

00:00 The disconnect between “you’re on track” and having real, concrete timelines
02:30 How to initiate a formal conversation and what to say
04:35 Questions to ask when timing remains unclear
06:06 What to do when you’re told “it’s not my decision”
08:22 How to bring mentors and sponsors into the loop strategically
09:29 Using metrics to frame your case with practice group leaders
11:26 When to escalate beyond your group for real answers
12:54 Why in-person meetings matter and how to push through excuses
14:00 What to make of vague delays—and what they reveal about firm culture
16:22 Final thoughts on asking the harder, more important question: when

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In Big Law, doing what is asked of you is expected—what sets you apart is how you show up beyond that. In this episode, I talk about the silent missteps that hold many associates back, from treating assignments as isolated tasks to assuming visibility and feedback will come without asking. I walk through real examples of how missed context, lack of sufficient follow-through, and playing it safe can quietly stall your career, even if you’re billing plenty of hours and meeting expectations on paper.

For lawyers early in their Big Law career, who want to move from competent to highly valued, this episode breaks down what it really takes to build momentum, reputation, and trust with senior lawyers. I share exactly what I looked for when I managed associates, and the small signals that showed me who is thinking like a future partner. If you’ve ever wondered whether doing the work and getting good evaluations is enough, this conversation will give you a more indepth view of how top associates stand out—and how to make sure you’re one of them.

At a Glance:
00:00 Why lawyering well isn’t enough in Big Law
01:20 The mistake of keeping your head down and assuming no feedback is good feedback
02:10 Assignments are not tasks, they’re tests of judgment and strategic thinking
03:02 Why doing only what is asked can fail to advance your career
04:04 When failing to raise key issues can suggest you lack judgment
05:09 Why thoughtful questions show strength, not weakness
06:02 The danger of treating assignments like schoolwork with a finish line
06:48 How silence makes you forgettable and how to avoid it
07:09 What asking for feedback really signals to partners
07:51 The growth that only happens when you reach beyond your comfort zone
08:49 Specific examples: secondments, cross-border teams, and fast-moving deals
09:37 The importance of internal visibility beyond billables
10:16 Why Big Law isn’t built for associates who operate in isolation
10:44 How disengagement quietly damages your reputation over time
11:13 Why initiative matters more than raw competence
11:40 Final thoughts: what Big Law actually rewards

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Making the decision to pivot to or re-entering Big Law after time in a smaller practice—whether solo or at a boutique firm—is not a decision to make lightly. In this episode, I lay out what every experienced attorney should evaluate before making the leap to a large firm. From navigating equity status, benefits and health insurance costs, to understanding the real expectations around origination credit, profitability metrics, and collaboration—you’ll hear what questions to ask and areas to do your due diligence on now to avoid misalignment later.

I also cover what internal resources to ask about and people to meet with before your first day, and how to set yourself up for success in your first year, particularly if business development support is limited. If you’re an experienced practitioner considering a move to Big Law, this episode will help you think through what you need to know before you sign.

At a Glance:
00:00 Why this episode matters for returning or first-time Big Law partners
01:20 Common motivations for moving to Big Law from solo or small-firm practice
02:07 Equity vs. non-equity partner status—what to clarify and why it varies
03:07 Key comp variables: point charts, bonus eligibility, and guaranteed years
04:16 What solo and small-firm lawyers may overlook about health and retirement costs
05:08 Capital contributions, K-1s vs. W-2s, and hidden costs you should ask about
06:22 What firms are really hiring you to do—it may not be to help with someone else’s book
07:17 Why low-rate clients may become an issue, even if you bring a full pipeline
07:39 Metrics that matter in Big Law—what you’ll be evaluated on annually
08:03 The illusion of collaboration—why many firms still operate in silos
08:45 What to do if you’re expected to originate work immediately
09:05 Why you need to meet practice management, pricing, and BD leaders before signing
09:49 Understanding what the platform really offers—and where it may fall short
10:39 You will be held accountable for profitability—ask who’s helping you deliver
11:05 Don’t assume resources will be available when you arrive—get clarity in advance
11:26 Why you need a marketing and BD plan in place before day one
12:14 Smart strategies for integrating internally and externally
12:35 What your BD budget should include—and how to advocate for it
12:59 Why assuming flexibility or financial support will be there without a solid plan
13:27 The value of engaging internal BDs to champion your strategy
13:51 Final reminders: the questions to ask, the pitfalls to avoid, and how to make the right move

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As the legal industry reckons with the growing influence of generative AI and automation, law firms are facing far more than just new tools—they’re confronting a fundamental shift in how talent is managed, work is structured, and value is delivered. In this episode, I’m joined by Keith Maziarek, a Big Law expert in strategic pricing and legal project management, to talk about how AI is reshaping the legal talent model and how firms will measure and track value—from flattening the traditional associate pyramid to forcing firms to rethink hiring, development, and retention strategies.

Keith and I dive into what this means for lawyers and business professionals alike, and why this is likely to mean that law firms will need fewer—but more specialized—junior lawyers, how non-legal professionals like data scientists will be essential to client service, and the ways in which the future of legal work will demand both new skillsets and new incentives. If you’re a senior lawyer navigating firm leadership, or thinking about how to future-proof your career, this episode is essential listening.

At a Glance:
00:00 Introduction and why Big Law isn’t ready for what’s coming
01:20 Keith Maziarek returns to share insights on generative AI’s disruption of legal work
03:01 How automation changes the leverage model and firm economics
05:13 Why the traditional associate-heavy pyramid is changing
06:21 The shift toward a rectangular org chart and what that means for firm structure
07:26 Shocking stat: 80% of associates leave by year five—and why that’s unsustainable
08:50 Future associates will need a new skillset law schools still aren’t teaching
10:07 Why firm recruiting, professional development, and retention must evolve now
11:20 Non-lawyer experts—data scientists and technologists—are becoming central
12:40 Firms rely on lawyer-only profit-sharing, but this may not be sustainable
14:03 Hiring fewer lawyers doesn’t cut costs but will shift them to expensive specialists
15:34 Investigations and data science: where collaboration is already essential
16:26 How embedded data teams are unlocking new revenue and client insights
17:32 Can firms fairly compensate non-lawyers generating economic value?
18:07 Rethinking pricing: how to quantify the value of data-driven insights
20:53 True value-based pricing is possible—when noise is removed by data teams
22:19 Why most firms still aren’t prepared to sell or price non-legal services
24:23 The market isn’t ready—and clients struggle to evaluate unfamiliar services
25:23 Why this creates opportunity for innovation in both delivery and monetization
26:04 Keith shares details on upcoming Legal Value Network events

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Ways to reach Keith Maziarek
www.legalvaluenetwork.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/legal-value-network/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keithmaziarek/

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When it feels like you’re one of thousands of lawyers competing for the same clients, even within your own firm, differentiation becomes critical. In today’s episode, I talk about how to stand out when everyone around you seems to have the same credentials, practice area, and experience. I walk through tangible steps you can take—starting today—to position yourself as a go-to expert by identifying what makes your legal practice different and making that difference obvious to clients, partners, and prospective business. From narrowing your niche to using specific language that paints a vivid picture of your value, I cover ways to clarify your messaging, share your wins, and better connect with what your clients actually care about.

Whether you’re frustrated by a lack of inbound work, worried that your expertise is becoming commoditized, or simply trying to rise above the noise, this episode offers a practical approach to help you cut through.

At a Glance:
00:00 Competing in a saturated legal market and why general expertise falls flat
02:10 Reframing self-doubt into an opportunity to differentiate your legal practice
02:56 Carving out a niche with specificity—without becoming too narrow
04:09 Why factual, example-driven descriptions resonate more than generalities
05:06 Sharing proof of success: specific outcomes and stories that build trust
05:59 How to communicate your expertise effectively with media and audiences
07:15 A 3-question framework to define your unique value proposition
08:31 Going beyond labels: describing what you do in real terms
10:02 Understanding how you help clients—and what makes your approach unique
11:40 Tying it all together: using this framework to refine your personal brand
12:11 Listening to your clients to understand what success means to them
13:10 A client re-engagement story that shows the power of simply checking in
14:09 Why differentiation about personal resilience as well as strategy

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In today’s episode, I walk through one of the most important—but often rushed—decisions in a legal career, choosing a practice area. Whether you're a junior associate deciding where to start or a mid-level lawyer rethinking your long-term fit, this episode lays out ten insights lawyers frequently wish they'd heard before committing to a specialty.

I unpack what day-to-day work in different practice areas actually looks like (not just what it sounds like on paper or in theory), the types of clients and stressors you can expect, and how to think about exit options, marketability, and long-term sustainability. I also cover what happens when your specialty is too niche or too trendy, and how to evaluate whether a practice area is keeping up with new developments over time.

This episode is about helping you choose a path that aligns with how you work best, including over the long term in your legal career.

At a Glance:
00:00 Introduction and why law school doesn't prepare you for picking a practice area
01:20 Considering how you prefer to work and what that means for certain practices
02:19 The benefits of shadowing or observing potential specialties before committing
03:22 Myths about what you think certain practices are like v. reality
04:09 Why you may spend years waiting for “real” litigation experience
05:15 Deal work isn’t easier—it’s just a different kind of pressure
06:14 The stress of transactional work at junior and senior levels
07:10 Which practice areas and other training may offer potential exit options from firms
08:00 How geography can affect your legal opportunities
09:20 How the type of clients you serve can affect your work
10:11 Why cross-border work can be a variable to consider
11:22 The impact of certain practices areas on your career over time
12:12 Practice areas most vulnerable to AI-driven developments
12:57 The potential risks of overspecialization
13:53 Beware of trend-driven practice areas that may fizzle out
15:19 Cybersecurity: a cautionary tale of legal work vs. non-legal demands
15:44 Why mid-levels often give better career advice than partners
16:56 The real question behind choosing your practice area

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In today’s episode, I dive into the complex dynamics of self-advocacy inside Big Law firms—especially when you know stepping up may trigger pushback or quietly harm your reputation. I talk about what it really feels like to raise your hand in an environment where power dynamics are murky, and how to do it strategically so you're not sidelined for asking for what you've earned.

Whether you’ve been burned in the past or you’re simply unsure how to assert yourself without risk, I break down practical ways to navigate firm politics, advocate for your own advancement, and shift how you're seen by the decision-makers at your firm.

You'll hear real-world examples from my coaching clients, including how one partner successfully challenged a toxic situation by staying grounded in facts—not emotion—and how to use smaller, safer forums to build visibility before taking bigger swings.

At a Glance:
00:00 Introduction and the real challenge of self-advocacy inside Big Law
01:20 Why internal negotiation feels riskier than client advocacy
02:12 The hidden rules of the sandbox—and how fear shapes behavior
03:12 How law firm culture discourages asking for more
04:00 Imposter syndrome and unclear rules for advancement
05:10 Why some partners turn cold—and how that shift derails careers
06:01 A mindset reframe to engage power players strategically
07:06 A junior partner’s story: pushing through abuse to win a major pitch
09:07 How to build influence through low-risk contributions
10:14 Why tone and timing matter more than content in firm-wide conversations
10:35 How to read your firm’s sandbox like a strategist
11:30 What to do when you’ve been cut out or undermined
12:43 Gut-checking your fears vs. firm realities
13:45 Advocacy isn’t selfish—it’s part of owning your career
14:26 How to show up consistently and shape your firm’s future

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