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Big Law Life

Big Law Life

By: Laura Terrell
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On Big Law Life, Laura Terrell and her guests discuss the strategies, steps, relationships and communications you need to navigate the world of large global and national law firms, from the perspective of lawyers, business and legal professionals, in-house counsel, and others with experience working in and around this environment. Laura dives into what you want to know about BigLaw but didn’t learn in law school and what wasn’t covered in your law firm orientation. To learn more about how she works with attorneys and to access her blog and resources, go to www.lauraterrell.com2024 Career Success Economics Management Management & Leadership
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  • #79: The Critical Need for Elder & Adult Care Benefits in BigLaw - With Thomas Adrian of Sheppard Mullin
    Jul 2 2025

    Most BigLaw firms offer a broad array of benefits, including to meet important needs for caregiving for children. But there is still a large gap in many firms for lawyers and other professionals when it comes to benefits that assist in meeting broader family needs, including when it comes to caring for parents, adult dependents, spoues and other family members. In this episode, I speak with Thomas Adrian, who leads HR and wellness at Sheppard Mullin, a firm which has adopted one of the most comprehensive programs in BigLaw to address overall family caregiver needs. We talking about how Sheppard Mullin's partnership with HomeThrive helps lawyers and other professional staff to handle real-life carer responsibilities without having to sacrifice their careers.

    Thomas walks through how the program works, including how it is structured to avoid red tape, and how it delivers tangible ROI through increased retention, better productivity, and stronger firm culture. For firms that want to lead in talent strategy, and attorneys looking for better ways to share with their firms how to meet this challenge in the marketplace, this episode is worth a close listen.

    At a Glance:
    00:00 Why adult caregiving needs more attention in law firm benefits
    01:46 Key statistics on working caregivers and the impact on careers
    03:07 Sheppard Mullin’s motivation to address caregiving needs
    04:20 How the firm began identifying caregiving as a wellness priority
    07:13 Why Sheppard Mullin chose Homethrive and how the program works
    09:46 Real-life examples of remote caregiving support across the U.S.
    11:09 The range of support Homethrive offers beyond elder care
    12:25 How Sheppard Mullin defines “family” inclusively
    14:15 How the program has been leveraged by those who benefit from it
    15:16 Impact stories from attorneys and staff who avoided burnout or resignation
    16:40 Extending the benefit to all employees—not just lawyers
    17:59 Gaining leadership buy-in for progressive benefits
    19:23 ROI vs. Return on Value: how the firm measures program success
    20:50 Billing more hours thanks to offloaded caregiving logistics
    22:07 Vendor collaboration: why integration across wellness programs matters
    24:16 How word-of-mouth drives adoption across practice groups
    25:11 Why Sheppard Mullin is committed to leading in this area
    26:21 Thomas’s personal passion and family experience that inspires his work

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    Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life? Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law.

    For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven’t done so already, follow the podcast here!

    For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars.

    To reach out to Thomas Adrian for more information about Sheppard Mullin's approach:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomadrian/
    www.sheppardmullin.com

    To reach out to HomeThrive about the benefits and parternships they offer to law firms and companies:
    https://homethrive.com/

    Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting? Here are ways to reach out to her:

    www.lauraterrell.com

    laura@lauraterrell.com

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/

    Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

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    31 mins
  • #78: What to Do When Your BigLaw Firm Won’t Give You a Partnership Timeline
    Jun 25 2025

    When you’ve been assured you’re “on track” for partnership, but still don’t have a clear timeline, it’s time to push for specifics. In this episode, I walk through how to navigate one of the most sensitive—but critical—conversations in Big Law: asking WHEN you’ll actually be put up for partner. I lay out the right questions to ask, the right people to approach, and how to handle vague responses or firm-wide delays that stall your trajectory. If you’ve been hearing encouragement without clarity, this episode gives you the tools to stop guessing and start getting real answers. Because timing is everything.

    At a Glance:

    00:00 The disconnect between “you’re on track” and having real, concrete timelines
    02:30 How to initiate a formal conversation and what to say
    04:35 Questions to ask when timing remains unclear
    06:06 What to do when you’re told “it’s not my decision”
    08:22 How to bring mentors and sponsors into the loop strategically
    09:29 Using metrics to frame your case with practice group leaders
    11:26 When to escalate beyond your group for real answers
    12:54 Why in-person meetings matter and how to push through excuses
    14:00 What to make of vague delays—and what they reveal about firm culture
    16:22 Final thoughts on asking the harder, more important question: when

    Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify

    Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life? Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law.

    For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven’t done so already, follow the podcast here!

    For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars.

    Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting?

    Here are ways to reach out to her:

    www.lauraterrell.com

    laura@lauraterrell.com

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/

    Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

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    18 mins
  • #77: Missed Opportunities for BigLaw Associates
    Jun 18 2025

    In Big Law, doing what is asked of you is expected—what sets you apart is how you show up beyond that. In this episode, I talk about the silent missteps that hold many associates back, from treating assignments as isolated tasks to assuming visibility and feedback will come without asking. I walk through real examples of how missed context, lack of sufficient follow-through, and playing it safe can quietly stall your career, even if you’re billing plenty of hours and meeting expectations on paper.

    For lawyers early in their Big Law career, who want to move from competent to highly valued, this episode breaks down what it really takes to build momentum, reputation, and trust with senior lawyers. I share exactly what I looked for when I managed associates, and the small signals that showed me who is thinking like a future partner. If you’ve ever wondered whether doing the work and getting good evaluations is enough, this conversation will give you a more indepth view of how top associates stand out—and how to make sure you’re one of them.

    At a Glance:
    00:00 Why lawyering well isn’t enough in Big Law
    01:20 The mistake of keeping your head down and assuming no feedback is good feedback
    02:10 Assignments are not tasks, they’re tests of judgment and strategic thinking
    03:02 Why doing only what is asked can fail to advance your career
    04:04 When failing to raise key issues can suggest you lack judgment
    05:09 Why thoughtful questions show strength, not weakness
    06:02 The danger of treating assignments like schoolwork with a finish line
    06:48 How silence makes you forgettable and how to avoid it
    07:09 What asking for feedback really signals to partners
    07:51 The growth that only happens when you reach beyond your comfort zone
    08:49 Specific examples: secondments, cross-border teams, and fast-moving deals
    09:37 The importance of internal visibility beyond billables
    10:16 Why Big Law isn’t built for associates who operate in isolation
    10:44 How disengagement quietly damages your reputation over time
    11:13 Why initiative matters more than raw competence
    11:40 Final thoughts: what Big Law actually rewards

    Rate, Review, & Follow on Apple Podcasts & Spotify

    Do you enjoy listening to Big Law Life? Please consider rating and reviewing the show! This helps support and reach more people like you who want to grow a career in Big Law.

    For Apple Podcasts, click here, scroll to the bottom, tap to rate with five stars, and select “Write a Review.” Then be sure to let me know what you loved most about the episode! Also, if you haven’t done so already, follow the podcast here!

    For Spotify, tap here on your mobile phone, follow the podcast, listen to the show, then find the rating icon below the description, and tap to rate with five stars.

    Interested in doing 1-2-1 coaching with Laura Terrell? Or learning more about her work coaching and consulting?

    Here are ways to reach out to her:

    www.lauraterrell.com

    laura@lauraterrell.com

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauralterrell/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauraterrellcoaching/

    Show notes: https://www.lauraterrell.com/podcast

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    13 mins
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I'll confess I'm a bit biased - I was the guest on the podcast this week. But seriously, I had so much fun talking with Laura. Laura's passion and knowledge make thisnpodcast a must-listen.

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