Sarah’s Type 6 mind moves fast—so fast it can create instant connection and obscure deeper intimacy. In this episode, she unpacks the whirlwind: the pull between independence and support, the trap of victimhood, and how unchecked reactivity nearly derailed a past relationship. With raw honesty, she explores self-sabotage, emotional spirals, and the slow work of learning self-trust. This is a conversation about growing beyond fear into real, grounded connection.

LINKS

The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:08 - Reviewing the “bullet points”

07:39 - Therapy, working on self-needs rather than attachment structure reflecting needs of others

10:07 - What’s hard about ‘touching ground’

25:11 - Victim mentality, self-sabotage, and type 6 ‘underdog’

32:43 - Reactive attachment

39:41 - Seeking a dimension of parental qualities in partners

47:20 - 6 dividing from one extreme pole to the other, finding balance in the center

52:28 - 6s entitlement of collective ‘markers’

1:02:42 - The horror of “it’s all 6, it always has been”

1:17:50 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine
Edited by Kristen Oberly
Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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Kalla Mort shares her jaw-dropping story of escaping the high control religion of her youth (read: cult) and coming out as queer. This is an incredibly rich exploration of Attachment in the Mental Center, and how Type 6 navigates revolutions of core beliefs. Enjoy.

LINKS

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

2:17 - Growing up in high control religion, 6 attachment in head center

8:30 - Young 6 strategizing, ‘selling out’ in religion, theater life

10:21 - Sexuality in a purity culture

13:23 - IBLP, Gotthard, being a mouthpiece for collective ideals

24:56 - Awakening to identity

33:15 - Christian ‘beacon of love’ vs. personal visceral truth

46:03 - Dissociation of the attachment types

50:41 - Mental health, conversion therapy

55:10 - 6 ‘copy-paste’ discernment

1:04:21 - Psychosomatic symptoms of body/mind incongruence

1:13:49 - The mental center as a prison for the heart

1:31:45 - Deconstruction

1:38:13 - Weaponizing faith

1:51:02 - Getting ‘too big’ for old constructs

1:55:12 - Esoteric healing methods

2:02:25 - 6’s mistrust of the mental center

2:18:38 - “My biggest savior is my biggest sin - subjectivity”

2:25:56 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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Sara Pryde (SP/SX 6w7 614), trauma-informed massage therapist, joins us from Wyoming. We dive into the existential crisis sparked when her partner didn't finish his weekly banana quota—forcing her into making muffins against her will. Plus, we unpack how Sara, as SP/SX armed with all three frustration types (1, 4, 7), meticulously crafts her ideal cozy cocoon, yet accidentally projects being more socially "available" than she ever truly feels. Enjoy.

LINKS

Sara’s Website (Massage Therapy, Astrology, Blog)
https://www.sarapryde.com/

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Intro

03:08 - Nervous interview ‘bubbling’, 6-1 stem not managing the stress

09:28 - Social blind “I don’t like being a person”, being perceived, “I have to be mythic”

17:22 - Massage therapy, curating perfect environment

22:38 - Conflicts in Type Structure, 6 can’t cut off from service and security

29:24 - Comfort is not health, coming up for air as sp/sx

33:41 - “Security” as Self-preservation 6

34:55 - “Muffin Madness”: social blind frustration

49:32 - Not holding a socially collective reasoning

57:24 - Accidental availability as a 6, despite social blind

1:01:19 - Childhood

1:14:18 - Self-Reliance as Type 6, Anchoring to meaning-making maps

1:19:41 - 6s inner zig-zag, different ‘parts’ conflicting thoughts/statements

1:30:48 - Outro

CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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In this candid Enneagram interview, Kate (SO/SX 7w8 793) discusses her identity as an "entitled brat," her allergy to drudgery and limitation, and her dream (since she was young) of being a "kept woman." She also shares how therapy helped her distinguish between "fun negative" (entertainment) and "real negative" (trauma), allowing her to process difficult emotions rather than "bouncing" away from them. Enjoy.

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Browse More Interviews by Type
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/enneagram-interviews-and-panels

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Timestamps

00:00 - Intro

03:59 - Outlook on what Kate does in life, not tracking self-preservation linearly

07:03 - Frustration of 7, not ‘hippy dippy’

13:22 - “I live in the land of Kate”, Type 7 relationship to freedom, theater of negativity masks "real" negativity

20:34 - No super-ego; fighting reality

22:13 - Friendship as a social 7, having fun and dealing with shit, reciprocity

28:01 - Being a ‘brat’, wanting to be a ‘kept woman’, freedom from ‘have-to’s’

33:29 - SP blind 7: no shame in others caring for them

37:31 - Being assertive, getting ‘in trouble’ as a framework

42:10 - Being loved more than loving

45:23 - Harry Potter addiction, proxy for SP grounding

48:31 - Therapy, letting in past hurts, not bouncing out of pain

55:21 - Seeing memories in new light, somatic connections

1:09:40 - Outro

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CREDITS

Interview by Josh Lavine

Edited by Kristen Oberly

Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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Anna Palumbo (SO/SP 9w8 937) is a Type 9 mother who has been undergoing a profound transformation—untangling herself from patterns of enmeshment and reconnecting with her own life-force. In this episode, we focus on Anna’s relationship with her Type 6 daughter and how her Type 9 tendency to merge initially obscured her ability to be present with her daughter's reactivity. We also explore the Positive Outlook reflex of Type 9 and its dynamic tension with the "point-out-the-problem" and "raise-the-alarm" tendency of Type 6. Anna brings remarkable clarity, grace, and self-awareness to this discussion, offering a rare, high-resolution look at the inner experience of a 9 navigating parenthood and the individuation journey. Enjoy this powerful conversation.

Learn at The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Browse More Interviews by Type

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/enneagram-interviews-and-panels

Get Typed
https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Timestamps

00:00 - Intro 04:53 - Anna's attachment journey as a mom

08:21 - 9 mom absorbing 6 daughter's reactive processing

12:02 - Slowing down & attuning to self

13:40 - Holding boundaries as a gut type, anchoring to self

16:36 - "An incredible return of energy"

18:36 - The porousness of 9's nervous system, fogginess & infusion

20:56 - Positive type reframe (2, 7, 9) amputates emotional experiences

21:48 - Attachment type fusion (3, 6, 9)

27:28 - Going on autopilot, 9 dissociation

28:26 - 9w8 rejection, shutting down of external stimuli

30:16 - Self-locating via music and art

33:04 - Why it's hard for 9s to be with someone else's pain

36:07 - Josh's mom is a 9w8

40:56 - Positive reframe to keep hope alive, not get "lost" in pain

43:36 - Resensitizing means being more aware of misses

45:19 - Can my relationships bear the new me? -- Hurdles of attachment types returning to themselves

47:40 - 9w8 bluntness shuts down communications

52:48 - Relationship dynamics changing, not needing to be on the same page

55:12 - Saying yes & no without over-explaining

55:46 - Loyalty to self a valuable thing

1:03:11 - 9s integration line to types 3 and 6, valuing oneself & being awake

1:06:45 - New level of relaxation, not trying so hard to keep inner and outer world separate

1:10:47 - Outro

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Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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Janice is a life-coach and an Enneagram 3, and at the time of this interview she is 84 years old. We explore her past relationships, the life-long inner tension between doing "what's expected of me" vs "what I want," and what parts of the Type 3 structure still drive her at her life stage. Enjoy.

The Enneagram School
https://theenneagramschool.com/

Our Intro Course
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Timestamps

0:00 - Intro

2:40 - Janice's Enneagram history

6:40 - "I can do anything I want to do", the little engine that could

10:00 - Freedom vs the 'shoulds' of life

11:51 - Stances of 'withholding' throughout life; power or protection

13:50 - Rebelling against pressures, superego vs authentic kindness

16:03 - Being nice or feeling responsible, 'not needing' blocks ability to receive

17:08 - "I'm an Amazon woman"... NOT a "little old lady" -- and, shifting to receive

22:07 - Type 3 framework, needing to be seen as valuable and admirable, "the drive for the fundamental"

29:25 - Janice's relationship with growing old, trusting the body, growing intensity

32:55 - Memory, removing the clutter, trusting in presence

36:19 - Relationships, frustration/anger, 7's difficulty with processing 'darker' emotions

39:57 - Going through Janice's four relationships

43:49 - Getting out of a depression, looking at mindsets objectively

46:22 - Taking care of someone in decline, the freedom of stepping back

49:02 - Being in the happiest time of life, having no shame in answering questions, being at peace with the 'lacking' parts of self

58:25 - Outro

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Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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Mariona M (SX/SO 9w1 973) is a language activist in Catalonia. In the first phase of this conversation, we explore her complex relationship with crying to process emotional backlog, and how her type's pattern of reaching for deeper self-understanding in order to soothe herself can, ironically, create more inner turbulence. In the second phase, we ground ourselves, and Mariona's essence as an SX 9 comes through. Enjoy.

Mariona's Link Tree
https://linktr.ee/marionamiretlanguages

Browse Interviews by Type & Instinct
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/enneagram-interviews-and-panels

The Enneagram School
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/

Master the Enneagram (Online Course)
https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Timestamps

00:38 - Intro

03:56 - Self-preservation blind interview set-up

05:51 - Personal process 'is precious', "I am my own home now"

08:24 - Taking self-responsibility for stress, experiencing exhaustion, being sensitive

10:35 - 'The base is always a fragility', crying as a helpful workout

18:18 - Type 9 absorption, sexual instinct need for a discharge

21:56 - Pain "wanting" to be experienced

25:17 - Reaching catharsis, expressing 'messages' of feeling and truths

28:51 - Being a channel for personal discoveries

33:54 - The 'Snow Globe' Effect, living in fantasy rather than enacting it in reality

40:22 - Settling the snow globe of the interview

47:44 - Type 3 attached to conversation productivity, 7 fix flipping tables, Mariona sings from a book

53:38 - Seduction/hooking or flirting with life

57:25 - Demanding/needing attention, sharing openly and being oneself

1:01:37 - Being seduced by creative spontaneity

1:06:16 - Taking ownership of qualities that shine

1:08:27 - Reflection and coming to a close

1:11:41 - Outro

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Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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John Luckovich and I (Josh Lavine) are RELEASING OUR INTRO ENNEAGRAM COURSE. In this conversation, we talk about what it was like working together as a Social 3 and a Sexual 4.

We're very proud of the course. Official release is Jan 6, 2025, but you can buy it during our holiday presale at 50% OFF of the founding members price(through Dec 31). Link below.

https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

Timestamps

00:00 Intro

01:57 Josh is burned out, editing is done, intro course is ready

04:17 Josh and John "access" the Enneagram differently

08:35 Josh's SO 3 ability to organize and communicate effectively

10:36 John's 4w5 way of teaching from the inner labyrinth

14:00 How the Enneagram lives inside us

15:30 Two heart type teachers, attention to identity and emotional landscape

18:03 Clarifying unexplored Enneagram terms

20:06 How surprisingly hard it was to create an intro course

24:23 Next steps for the Enneagram School

31:39 Why we did audio not video course

37:33 The course e-book

40:45 Why you should listen to this thing that we worked on!

43:07 Enneagram not just useful "at work" or "in relationships," but wherever people are

45:18 Use this course to start from the roots

49:09 Outro

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Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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