What It's Like To Be You

By: Josh Lavine
  • Summary

  • Intimate, high resolution interviews with all Enneagram types and inner work practitioners. Produced by The Enneagram School & hosted by Josh Lavine. Watch on YouTube @TheEnneagramSchool.
    © 2025 The Enneagram School LLC
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Episodes
  • #47: Sarah Fair (SP/SO 6w7 693) – Disarming Others, Reigning in Unchecked Reactivity, and Overcoming Victim Mentality
    Apr 15 2025

    Sarah’s Type 6 mind moves fast—so fast it can create instant connection and obscure deeper intimacy. In this episode, she unpacks the whirlwind: the pull between independence and support, the trap of victimhood, and how unchecked reactivity nearly derailed a past relationship. With raw honesty, she explores self-sabotage, emotional spirals, and the slow work of learning self-trust. This is a conversation about growing beyond fear into real, grounded connection.

    LINKS

    The Enneagram School https://theenneagramschool.com/

    Intro Course https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

    Get Typed https://www.enneagrammer.com/

    Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

    House of Enneagram https://www.youtube.com/@houseofenneagram

    TIMESTAMPS

    00:00 - Intro

    03:08 - Reviewing the “bullet points”

    07:39 - Therapy, working on self-needs rather than attachment structure reflecting needs of others

    10:07 - What’s hard about ‘touching ground’

    25:11 - Victim mentality, self-sabotage, and type 6 ‘underdog’

    32:43 - Reactive attachment

    39:41 - Seeking a dimension of parental qualities in partners

    47:20 - 6 dividing from one extreme pole to the other, finding balance in the center

    52:28 - 6s entitlement of collective ‘markers’

    1:02:42 - The horror of “it’s all 6, it always has been”

    1:17:50 - Outro

    CREDITS

    Interview by Josh Lavine
    Edited by Kristen Oberly
    Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay
    Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/
    Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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    1 hr and 21 mins
  • #46: Kalla Mort (SO/SP 6w7 639) – Escaping High Control Religion, Coming Out as Queer, and Learning to Orient Myself
    Apr 1 2025

    Kalla Mort shares her jaw-dropping story of escaping the high control religion of her youth (read: cult) and coming out as queer. This is an incredibly rich exploration of Attachment in the Mental Center, and how Type 6 navigates revolutions of core beliefs. Enjoy.

    LINKS

    Learn at The Enneagram School
    https://theenneagramschool.com/

    Intro Course
    https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

    Get Typed
    https://www.enneagrammer.com/

    Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

    TIMESTAMPS

    00:00 - Intro

    2:17 - Growing up in high control religion, 6 attachment in head center

    8:30 - Young 6 strategizing, ‘selling out’ in religion, theater life

    10:21 - Sexuality in a purity culture

    13:23 - IBLP, Gotthard, being a mouthpiece for collective ideals

    24:56 - Awakening to identity

    33:15 - Christian ‘beacon of love’ vs. personal visceral truth

    46:03 - Dissociation of the attachment types

    50:41 - Mental health, conversion therapy

    55:10 - 6 ‘copy-paste’ discernment

    1:04:21 - Psychosomatic symptoms of body/mind incongruence

    1:13:49 - The mental center as a prison for the heart

    1:31:45 - Deconstruction

    1:38:13 - Weaponizing faith

    1:51:02 - Getting ‘too big’ for old constructs

    1:55:12 - Esoteric healing methods

    2:02:25 - 6’s mistrust of the mental center

    2:18:38 - “My biggest savior is my biggest sin - subjectivity”

    2:25:56 - Outro

    CREDITS

    Interview by Josh Lavine

    Edited by Kristen Oberly

    Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

    Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

    Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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    2 hrs and 27 mins
  • #45: Sara Pryde (SP/SX 6w7 614) - Curating Delicious Environments, Raging About Rotten Bananas, Being Accidentally Available,& Zig-Zagging as I Talk
    Mar 25 2025

    Sara Pryde (SP/SX 6w7 614), trauma-informed massage therapist, joins us from Wyoming. We dive into the existential crisis sparked when her partner didn't finish his weekly banana quota—forcing her into making muffins against her will. Plus, we unpack how Sara, as SP/SX armed with all three frustration types (1, 4, 7), meticulously crafts her ideal cozy cocoon, yet accidentally projects being more socially "available" than she ever truly feels. Enjoy.

    LINKS

    Sara’s Website (Massage Therapy, Astrology, Blog)
    https://www.sarapryde.com/

    Learn at The Enneagram School
    https://theenneagramschool.com/

    Intro Course
    https://www.theenneagramschool.com/intro-enneagram-course

    Get Typed
    https://www.enneagrammer.com/

    Sinsomnia Podcast (Dreams)
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sinsomnia/id1684154994

    TIMESTAMPS

    00:00 - Intro

    03:08 - Nervous interview ‘bubbling’, 6-1 stem not managing the stress

    09:28 - Social blind “I don’t like being a person”, being perceived, “I have to be mythic”

    17:22 - Massage therapy, curating perfect environment

    22:38 - Conflicts in Type Structure, 6 can’t cut off from service and security

    29:24 - Comfort is not health, coming up for air as sp/sx

    33:41 - “Security” as Self-preservation 6

    34:55 - “Muffin Madness”: social blind frustration

    49:32 - Not holding a socially collective reasoning

    57:24 - Accidental availability as a 6, despite social blind

    1:01:19 - Childhood

    1:14:18 - Self-Reliance as Type 6, Anchoring to meaning-making maps

    1:19:41 - 6s inner zig-zag, different ‘parts’ conflicting thoughts/statements

    1:30:48 - Outro




    CREDITS

    Interview by Josh Lavine

    Edited by Kristen Oberly

    Music by Coma-Media from Pixabay

    Coma-Media: https://pixabay.com/users/coma-media-24399569/

    Pixabay: https://pixabay.com/

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    1 hr and 33 mins
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