• #168 Dustin Mailman: Deep Time Coffee
    Apr 15 2025

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    In this episode, we sit down with Rev. Dustin Mailman, founding pastor of Deep Time in Asheville, North Carolina. Dustin shares the story behind this innovative faith community rooted in radical hospitality, restorative justice, and opportunities for returning citizens.

    With a background in traditional ministry and a heart for creative expressions of the Church, Dustin explores what it means to build spiritual community alongside social impact. Whether you're in church leadership or simply curious about new ways to live out the Gospel, this conversation will challenge and inspire.

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    Instagram: @deeptimeavl

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    44 mins
  • #167 Charles DiRico: Word on the Street
    Apr 8 2025

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    In this inspiring episode of Better Together, we sit down with Charles DiRico, the visionary behind Word on the Street—a growing network of dinner churches reaching nearly 400 people weekly. Charles shares the powerful story of how this movement began with simple meals and has grown into a vibrant ministry rooted in worship, community, and mutual transformation.

    Charles discusses the evolution of dinner churches, the importance of listening and loving as we follow Jesus into the streets, and the deep connections formed across economic and social lines. He also shares about Word on the Street’s next chapter: launching a social enterprise to employ neighbors experiencing homelessness and create bridges with new residents in their gentrifying neighborhood—all through a shared cup of coffee.

    Tune in to hear how this ministry is offering more than meals—it’s creating space for dignity, relationship, and the gospel in action.

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    28 mins
  • #166 Rob Hutchinson: Futuring Forward Together
    Mar 17 2025

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    In this episode of Better Together, I sit down with Rev. Dr. Rob Hutchinson to explore the vital role of the Holy Spirit in Christian community and decision-making. Rob shares his passion for fostering spiritually discerning church gatherings, advocating for a listen-first approach that prioritizes trust, mutual submission, and a shift in priorities toward collaborative discernment.

    We discuss how churches can move from debate to dialogue, cultivate a culture of openness to the Spirit’s leading, and implement practical steps for Spirit-guided meetings. Rob also introduces The Futuring Church Project, a resource designed to help church leaders integrate these practices into their communities.

    🔗 Learn more at https://www.thefuturingchurch.com
    📖 Read Rob’s insights on Substack: [Rev. Rob Hutch](https://substack.com/@revrobhutch)
    📢 Share this episode with leaders and friends eager to bring deeper spiritual discernment into their church settings!

    Listen now and discover how prioritizing the Holy Spirit can transform group decision-making and church leadership.

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    23 mins
  • #165 Travis Smith: The Loneliness Epidemic & Finding True Connection
    Feb 20 2025

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    In this episode, I sit down with Travis Smith, a doctoral student researching the loneliness epidemic, a pastor, counseling center operator, and adjunct professor. We explore the deep impact of loneliness on individuals and communities, the role of faith in fostering meaningful relationships, and practical ways to cultivate authentic connection in an increasingly isolated world. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that sheds light on this pressing issue and offers hope for genuine belonging.

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    30 mins
  • #164 John McGill: Leading with the Currency of Trust
    Feb 5 2025

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    Dr. John McGill, founder of We Do EQ, helps leaders grow in their emotional intelligence. One of the major currencies of leadership is trust, but there are different ways to demonstrate you are trustworthy. On this episode of the Better Together Podcast, Dr. McGill unpacks the different components of trust to help leaders grow and create cultures of trust.

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    19 mins
  • #163 Elaine Heath: Spirit-led Planning
    Jan 2 2025

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    How do you plan for your life, your family, and/or your organization with God? Dr. Elaine Heath is an author, speaker, retreat leader, consultant, farmer and Abbess who leads the new monastic community Spring Forest. She offers a different path from the traditional models of strategic planning and outcome-based goals that creates space for discerning God's direction. As you figure out God's leading for what is next, Dr. Heath offers a refreshing joy-filled approach to planning grounded in Celtic Christianity and open to the leading of the Holy Spirit.

    For more about Elaine, check out her website: https://www.elaineaheath.org/

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    29 mins
  • #162 Dana K White: Jesus Doesn't Care About Your Messy House
    Dec 27 2024

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    With the holidays, clutter, and just the daily struggle to keep a house clean, it can feel like an added weight to practice hospitality and invite others into your home. It can also be a source of shame. Author and decluttering expert, Dana K. White discovered God's grace through the struggle of a messy home, and offers both spiritual and practical insights from her new book Jesus Doesn't Care About Your Messy House. Whether you need some inspiration to start decluttering or an extra measure of God's grace in your life, we hope you are blessed by the conversation.

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    22 mins
  • #161 Adelle Banks and Daniel Yang: Becoming a Future Ready Church
    Nov 26 2024

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    Missiologist and pastor Daniel Yang and journalist Adelle Banks are co-authors with church researcher Warren Bird of the groundbreaking work Becoming a Future Ready Church. They unpack 8 trends the Church can adjust for now to be ready for the ministry the church needs to do in 2050. They beautifully inspire hope without condemnation to equip the Church to carry the mission of Jesus Christ to the world around us.

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    29 mins
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