The Leaders Playlist: Redefining Power, Presence, And Impact With Susan Drumm

What if the key to your growth as a leader wasn’t found in another strategy, but in a song?

In this soulful and enlightening episode of the Sacred Changemakers Podcast, Jayne is joined by leadership expert, CEO advisor, and bestselling author Susan Drumm for a conversation that will change how you think about leadership, transformation, and the power of presence.

Susan has coached billionaire CEOs, political figures, and Fortune 100 executives, yet what sets her apart isn’t just her credentials; it’s her heart. In this episode, she opens up about her journey through adversity, the inner patterns that hold us back, and how she learned to lead herself through challenge with compassion and courage.

Together, we explore the importance of self-leadership, emotional honesty, and rewriting the unconscious narratives that shape our lives. You’ll discover why Susan believes music is a revolutionary tool for healing and growth and how her book The Leader’s Playlist offers a practical, neuroscience-backed pathway to becoming a more resonant, empowered leader.

They also delve into the Enneagram, the role of vulnerability in leadership, and what it truly means to “practice what you preach” in both personal and professional life.

If you're craving a fresh, deeply human approach to leadership, this episode is your invitation. Honest, vibrant, and full of heart, it's one you won't want to miss.

Key Takeaways

• Self-leadership comes first. Growth begins with inner work and emotional honesty.
• Break old patterns. Recognize and disrupt beliefs that limit your leadership.
• Music rewires the brain. Use sound to shift states and lead with greater impact.
• Lead with your body. Embodiment creates presence and deeper connection.
• Use the Enneagram. A powerful tool for insight, feedback, and growth.
• Be real. Authenticity and vulnerability are the new edge of leadership.

Episode Resources:

• SusanDrumm.com
• Susan’s Website: Meritage Leadership
• BOOK: The Leader’s Playlist by Susan Drumm
• Susan’s LinkedIn Profile
• SacredChangemakers.com
• Explore The Resonance Collective
• Jayne Warrilow on LinkedIn

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In today’s episode of Sacred Changemakers, Jayne sits down with Isabelle Grosmaitre, a true catalyst for change in the world of business and leadership.

Isabelle is the Founder and CEO of Goodness & Co, a new kind of change management consultancy that helps CEOs, leaders, and organizations move beyond good intentions and put purpose into practice. She’s also the author of Business as a Force for Good, a powerful exploration of the global shift happening in leadership and governance, where conscious leaders are no longer isolated but part of a growing, unstoppable movement.

Beyond her writing and consultancy work, Isabelle plays a pivotal role in advancing leadership movements around the world. She is a steward of the For Good Leaders movement, co-founder of the ChangeNOW Board Member Program, Chairwoman of the Advisory Board for the Value Balancing Alliance, and co-founder of Generation Glasgow. She is also deeply committed to female leadership, through initiatives like Elles on Board, Future Women X of B Corp, and the International Women’s Forum. As a member of 100 Davos Women, Isabelle continues to amplify women’s voices in global institutions and advocate for more diverse, responsible governance.

In this rich and uplifting conversation, Isabelle shares her personal journey from the heart of global organizations to the frontlines of purpose-driven leadership. Together, we explore the real challenges and profound possibilities of building a future where business, people, and the planet can all thrive.

You’ll hear practical wisdom around leading with courage, crafting your personal manifesto, and why building deep relationships is essential for lasting change. Whether you’re a coach, a business leader, or a changemaker in your own right, this episode offers inspiration, hope, and grounded steps for bringing more soul into your work and your leadership.

Key Takeaways:

• How conscious leadership is becoming a global force for good
• Isabelle’s personal journey from corporate to changemaker
• The importance of manifesto-making and anchoring in purpose
• Building real relationships that fuel sustainable change
• Challenges leaders face in today’s evolving landscape
• Practical steps for aligning business, purpose, and impact

Episode Resources:

• Goodness and Co Website
• BOOK: Business As a Force for Good - How Courageous Leaders Shift Purpose into Practice by Isabelle Grosmaitre
• SacredChangemakers.com
• Explore The Resonance Collective
• Jayne Warrilow on Linkedin

Thank you to our sponsor:

A huge thank you to our Resonance Collective members, podcast sponsors, and extended Sacred Changemakers community, all of whom are visible on our website and helping us make a global impact aligned with the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals.

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About Sacred...

In this powerful solo episode, Jayne Warrilow returns to the Sacred Changemakers Podcast with a message that speaks straight to the heart of our times, and to the heart of coaching itself.

Sharing a deeply personal turning point that reoriented her work forever, Jayne introduces a new lens for transformation: the 8 Dimensions of Sacred Change. More than just a model, this framework offers a multidimensional map for coaching that meets the complexity of today’s world.

This isn’t about leaving personal development behind, far from it, it’s about anchoring it in something larger. If you've ever felt the limits of traditional coaching models or sensed a deeper calling in your work, this episode will speak to you.

Jayne invites us to widen the lens. To move beyond individual success. To start coaching not just for goals, but for the future. Not just for the self, but for the soul.

This episode is a heartfelt call to coaches everywhere: it’s time to lead with resonance, live with purpose, and become the guides this moment in history is asking for.

What you’ll learn in this episode:

• Why coaching must evolve beyond the “I, me, mine” conversation
• What it means to coach with both soul and structure, vision and action
• A full walkthrough of the 8 Dimensions of Sacred Change—and how to use them
• How to ask powerful questions that shift conversations from transactional to transformational
• Why coaches are uniquely placed to midwife the change the world so urgently needs

About Jayne Warrilow:

Jayne Warrilow is a visionary leader, bestselling author, and founder of Sacred Changemakers—a global community and training company guiding coaches to evolve into changemakers. Her work blends ancient wisdom with modern strategy to help soul-led coaches align with their deepest resonance and lead regenerative change. As the author of Beyond Profit, she challenges traditional models of success, redefining business and coaching as sacred paths of impact. Jayne is also a channel for The Elders, offering profound guidance for navigating uncertainty and awakening purpose. She lives in Columbus, Ohio, and leads a global movement of resonance-led transformation.

Episode Resources:

• The 8 Dimensions of Sacred Change
• SacredChangemakers.com
• Explore The Resonance Collective
• Jayne Warrilow on Linkedin

Thank you to our sponsor:

A huge thank you to our Resonance Collective members, podcast sponsors, and extended Sacred Changemakers community, all of whom are visible on our website and helping us make a global impact aligned with the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals.

Support the Podcast

If you’ve enjoyed this episode, we’d love your support! Please rate, review, and subscribe on iTunes or your favorite podcast platform. Your feedback helps us reach more coaches and changemakers who are ready to create real impact.

About Sacred Changemakers

Sacred Changemakers is a movement for coaches who feel called to something more. We support those who are ready to step beyond traditional coaching and into deeper impact, regenerative change, and meaningful work that truly makes a difference.

We believe coaching is evolving—it’s no longer just about personal transformation but...