Nicole O' Neil is a Real Housewife of Sydney.

Yes, we mean the reality show. And she's also a woman dealing with a lot of what everyone else is - kids getting older, a long marriage shifting gears, friendship changing with time, a career crossroads.

She just looks much more glamorous doing it.In this conversation we talk to Nicole about how MID’s going for someone who’s in the public eye in a very specific way. Whether the glamour is real, what it takes and what it hides. How to handle the pressure to look perfect. About friends, marriage and parenting lessons from the perspective of a newly-empty nest. And, of course, how to throw a damn party.

You can follow Nicole on Instagram and learn about her new venture BonPatch and many passions and projects.

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CREDITS:

Host: Holly Wainwright

Executive Producer: Naima Brown

Senior Producer: Grace Rouvray

Producer: Tahli Blackman

Audio Producer: Jacob Round

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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