
After Jesus, Before Christianity
A Historical Exploration of the First Two Centuries of Jesus Movements
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From the creative minds of the scholarly group behind the groundbreaking Jesus Seminar comes this provocative and eye-opening look at the roots of Christianity that offers a thoughtful reconsideration of the first two centuries of the Jesus movement, transforming our understanding of the religion and its early dissemination.
Christianity has endured for more than two millennia and is practiced by billions worldwide today. Yet that longevity has created difficulties for scholars tracing the religion’s roots, distorting much of the historical investigation into the first two centuries of the Jesus movement. But what if Christianity died in the fourth or fifth centuries after it began? How would that change how historians see and understand its first two hundred years?
Considering these questions, three Bible scholars from the Westar Institute summarize the work of the Christianity Seminar and its efforts to offer a new way of thinking about Christianity and its roots. Synthesizing the institute’s most recent scholarship - bringing together the many archaeological and textual discoveries over the last 20 years - they have found:
- There were multiple Jesus movements, not a singular one, before the fourth century
- There was nothing called Christianity until the third century
- There was much more flexibility and diversity within Jesus’s movement before it became centralized in Rome, not only regarding the Bible and religious doctrine, but also understandings of gender, sexuality and morality.
Exciting and revolutionary, After Jesus, Before Christianity provides fresh insights into the real history behind how the Jesus movement became Christianity.
Supplemental enhancement PDF accompanies the audiobook.
©2021 Erin Vearncombe, Brandon Scott, Hal Taussig, The Westar Institute (P)2021 HarperCollins PublishersListeners also enjoyed...
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Christianity didn't have to become the dominant religion in the West. It easily could have remained a sect of Judaism fated to have the historical importance of the Sadducees or the Essenes. In The Triumph of Christianity, Bart Ehrman, a master explainer of Christian history, texts, and traditions, shows how a religion whose first believers were 20 or so illiterate day laborers in a remote part of the empire became the official religion of Rome, converting some 30 million people in just four centuries.
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Another Piece of the Jesus Puzzle
- By A Mom on 04-13-18
By: Bart D. Ehrman
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Ancient Christianities
- The First Five Hundred Years
- By: Paula Fredriksen
- Narrated by: Rachel Perry
- Length: 8 hrs and 46 mins
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The ancient Mediterranean teemed with gods. For centuries, a practical religious pluralism prevailed. How, then, did one particular god come to dominate the politics and piety of the late Roman Empire? In Ancient Christianities, Paula Fredriksen traces the evolution of early Christianity—or rather, of early Christianities—through five centuries of Empire, mapping its pathways from the hills of Judea to the halls of Rome and Constantinople.
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Among the best
- By Jacob Kilgore on 04-17-25
By: Paula Fredriksen
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The Bible Unearthed
- Archaeology’s New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Texts
- By: Neil Asher Silberman, Israel Finkelstein
- Narrated by: Bob Souer
- Length: 12 hrs and 51 mins
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In this iconoclastic and provocative work, leading scholars Israel Finkelstein and Neil Asher Silberman draw on recent archaeological research to present a dramatically revised portrait of ancient Israel and its neighbors. They argue that crucial evidence (or a telling lack of evidence) at digs in Israel, Egypt, Jordan, and Lebanon suggests that many of the most famous stories in the Bible - the wanderings of the patriarchs, the Exodus from Egypt, Joshua’s conquest of Canaan, and David and Solomon’s vast empire - reflect the world of the later authors.
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Quite Eye Opening
- By K. Walker on 10-11-22
By: Neil Asher Silberman, and others
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Who Wrote the Bible?
- By: Richard Friedman
- Narrated by: Julian Smith, Richard Friedman
- Length: 9 hrs and 24 mins
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For thousands of years, the prophet Moses was regarded as the sole author of the first five books of the Bible, known as the Pentateuch. According to tradition, Moses was divinely directed to write down foundational events in the history of the world: the creation of humans, the worldwide flood, the laws as they were handed down at Mt. Sinai, and the cycle of Israel’s enslavement and liberation from Egypt. However, these stories—and their frequent discrepancies—provoke questions.
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An Excellent Book that is Written and Narrated Exceptionally Well!
- By Crazgod on 09-09-22
By: Richard Friedman
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The New Testament
- By: Bart D. Ehrman, The Great Courses
- Narrated by: Bart D. Ehrman
- Length: 12 hrs and 27 mins
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Whether taken as a book of faith or a cultural artifact, the New Testament is among the most significant writings the world has ever known, its web of meaning relied upon by virtually every major writer in the last 2,000 years. Yet the New Testament is not only one of Western civilization’s most believed books, but also one of its most widely disputed, often maligned, and least clearly understood, with a vast number of people unaware of how it was written and transmitted.
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If you want a balanced overview this is not it
- By Amazon Customer on 02-27-16
By: Bart D. Ehrman, and others
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God's Ghostwriters
- Enslaved Christians and the Making of the Bible
- By: Candida Moss
- Narrated by: Gabra Zackman
- Length: 8 hrs and 15 mins
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For the past two thousand years, Christian tradition, scholarship, and pop culture have credited the authorship of the New Testament to a select group of men: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, and Paul. But hidden behind these named and sainted individuals are a cluster of enslaved coauthors and collaborators.
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I just selected the wrong book
- By N. Thompson on 02-02-25
By: Candida Moss
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Lost Christianities
- The Battles of Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew
- By: Bart D. Ehrman
- Narrated by: Matthew Kugler
- Length: 13 hrs and 25 mins
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The early Christian Church was a chaos of contending beliefs. Some groups of Christians claimed that there was not one God but two or twelve or thirty. Some believed that the world had not been created by God but by a lesser, ignorant deity. Certain sects maintained that Jesus was human but not divine, while others said he was divine but not human.
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The Early Church(es)
- By Margaret on 01-06-14
By: Bart D. Ehrman
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The First Paul
- Reclaiming the Radical Visionary Behind the Church's Conservative Icon
- By: Marcus J. Borg, John Dominic Crossan
- Narrated by: Mel Foster
- Length: 8 hrs and 20 mins
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Paul is second only to Jesus as the most important person in the birth of Christianity, and yet he continues to be controversial, even among Christians. How could the letters of Paul be used both to inspire radical grace and to endorse systems of oppression - condoning slavery, subordinating women, condemning homosexual behavior? Borg and Crossan use the best of biblical and historical scholarship to explain the reasons for Paul's mixed reputation and reveal to us what scholars have known for decades: The later letters of Paul were created by the early church to dilute Paul's message.
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A Liberal Paul
- By Kayla on 05-12-20
By: Marcus J. Borg, and others
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The Bible with and Without Jesus
- How Jews and Christians Read the Same Stories Differently
- By: Amy-Jill Levine, Marc Zvi Brettler
- Narrated by: Marni Penning
- Length: 14 hrs and 32 mins
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Esteemed Bible scholars and teachers Amy-Jill Levine and Marc Z. Brettler take readers on a guided tour of the most popular Hebrew Bible passages quoted in the New Testament to show what the texts meant in their original contexts and then how Jews and Christians, over time, understood those same texts. By understanding the depth and variety by which these passages have been, and can be, understood, The Bible With and Without Jesus does more than enhance our religious understandings, it helps us to see the Bible as a source of inspiration for any and all listeners.
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Decent read
- By Jeff on 06-26-23
By: Amy-Jill Levine, and others
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The Making of the Bible
- From the First Fragments to Sacred Scripture
- By: Konrad Schmid, Jens Schröter, Peter Lewis - translator
- Narrated by: Tom Parks
- Length: 14 hrs and 33 mins
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The Bible as we know it today is best understood as a process, one that begins in the tenth century BCE. In this revelatory account, a world-renowned scholar of Hebrew scripture joins a foremost authority on the New Testament to write a new biography of the Book of Books, reconstructing Jewish and Christian scriptural histories, as well as the underappreciated contest between them, from which the Bible arose. The Making of the Bible is the most comprehensive history yet told of the world's best-known literature, revealing its buried lessons and secrets.
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Blathering away....
- By C.Maddy on 05-24-23
By: Konrad Schmid, and others
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How Jesus Became God
- The Exaltation of a Jewish Preacher from Galilee
- By: Bart D. Ehrman
- Narrated by: Walter Dixon
- Length: 10 hrs and 35 mins
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In a book that took eight years to research and write, leading Bible scholar Bart D. Ehrman explores how an apocalyptic prophet from the backwaters of rural Galilee crucified for crimes against the state came to be thought of as equal with the one God Almighty Creator of all things. Ehrman sketches Jesus's transformation from a human prophet to the Son of God exalted to divine status at his resurrection. Only when some of Jesus's followers had visions of him after his death - alive again - did anyone come to think that he, the prophet from Galilee, had become God.
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Wishing for a bit more meat on the bones
- By Darwin8u on 04-09-14
By: Bart D. Ehrman
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The Quest of the Historical Jesus
- By: Albert Schweitzer
- Narrated by: Joseph R. Daniels
- Length: 20 hrs and 53 mins
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Groundbreaking study that established the reputation of the famed theologian traces the search for the historical person of Jesus. Schweitzer examines works of more than 50 18th- and 19th-century authors and scholars and concludes that many of the earlier historical reconstructions of Christ were largely fantasies. The criterion for all subsequent studies.
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No History Here
- By Aaron on 07-12-24
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- Olivia Lafferty
- 08-11-24
Wow!!!
After Jesus, Before Christianity” by Erin Vearncombe, Brandon Scott, Hal Taussig, and The Westar Institute is an extraordinary work that delves into the complex and fascinating period following Jesus’ life and before the solidification of what we know today as Christianity. This book has profoundly deepened my understanding of the early Jesus movement, and it has illuminated aspects of history and theology that are often overlooked or misunderstood.
The authors do an incredible job of bringing this pivotal era to life, combining rigorous scholarship with accessible language. Their collective insights help to unravel the social, cultural, and political dynamics of the time, shedding light on the diverse and vibrant communities that shaped the early faith. I particularly appreciated how the book challenges conventional narratives, encouraging readers to reconsider what they think they know about the origins of Christianity.
What I found most compelling was the way the authors weave together historical context with theological reflection, providing a nuanced picture of a world in transition. The Westar Institute’s involvement ensures that the research is top-notch, and the collaboration between Vearncombe, Scott, and Taussig brings a richness to the discussion that is truly enlightening.
Thank you to the authors and The Westar Institute for your hard work and dedication in bringing this important scholarship to the public. Your work has helped me—and I’m sure many others—to explore these critical years with fresh eyes and deeper appreciation. This book is a must-read for anyone interested in the roots of Christian history and theology.
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- julioj725
- 03-02-22
A new essential resource
An excellent resource for anyone studying the history of early Christianities. I highly recommend it.
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- Adrian
- 10-05-23
Fascinating
This book made me think, soothed my soul, and reignited my excitement for Christianity. I'd recommend it to anyone, highly.
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- Kindle Customer
- 07-15-22
Ancient texts speak for themselves
Encyclopedic in scope, rigorous referencing, careful scholarship. Listened three times; now I'm reading the book.
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- Alton Elliott
- 07-13-24
Few new findings with new research resources
More hypothetical than proof driven, but interesting in some ways. The entire historical and researched stories of the first through the sixth centuries of the Jesus people, the evolution of the texts, the creeds and the Empire of the Church is a hot mess. After all the years of research and writing it appears that there is less and less to discuss. The "proof models" required in science are not available to this form of historical research and writings, which produce lots of opinions. However, opinions are often useful.
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- Anne C.
- 10-28-22
Informative & Important!
A book for our times. Unlike the negative reviewer, one doesn’t have to be woke to benefit from this scholarship. I recommend it highly.
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- david malaguti
- 08-18-23
whiny, woke pabulum
... And Tedious, to boot.
I counted at least 2 chapters bellyaching about those awful Romans expressing their dominance
With violence .
(no mention of roads, aquaducts, prolonged peace..)
chapter 8 was all about queerness and chapter 15, whilst ostensibly about gnosticism, went off on a 10 minute Rant about penguins.
yes. penguins.
( i like penguins, but.. By this time, I was only listening to the first half of the chapters, it was so painful)
ch 16 was mostly gender bending nonsense..
Chapter 17 was a number of strained interpretations of biblical stories to suit modern political themes.
ch 18 Was more bad scholarship, again about those nasty Romans.
I am a big fan of this subject comma having read most of bart ermann's books and tables books on paul. But this It was too much for me and I tuned out
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- Amazon Customer
- 06-02-24
My awakening
This is a must read for all seeking truth and understanding of our past and how it may have impacted our current day. Christianity is surely not the way our ancestors thought the future would be. It's time to change the frequency and wake up.
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- Alison
- 03-03-22
thought provoking
glad to have listened. scholarship always is a place of many life giving discoveries and land mines! but loving Jesus and the way(s) he leads us to live serving each other is light!
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- Patricia Hudson
- 02-20-24
Very interesting
It challenges ideas that you may have had about truth about Jesus and the simplicity of knowing what Jesus himself may have had. Anyone interested in exploring Christianity should read this.
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