Refreshing and challenging

What did you love best about A Disease in the Public Mind?

The reevaluation of Colonial thru Civil War history can never be over mined. Thomas Fleming deserves props for this refreshing examination of what was going on in America in regards to slavery. Many questions we face today including the politics of race are embedded in the discussion from this earlier period.

Who was your favorite character and why?

Thomas Jefferson was a compelling figure. A genuinely twisted individual.

Which scene was your favorite?

The Haitian uprising and America's near hysterical silence on the matter.

Was there a moment in the book that particularly moved you?

Truly moment after moment the story was compelling. Reading about men moved from the colonial period to end slavery, and the end of slavery in the north. I was also surprised at how much history is neglected and forgotten in the modern narrative. When you finish this you realize that whole levels of understanding can be added to the Civil War and what it meant to American, then and now.

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I had the pleasure of reading this, and then listening to it, both methods are satisfactory.

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Food for thought from another time of stark divisions.

I grew up in a part of the country where we were taught in school that slavery was not the cause of the civil war, that states right were the issue. But even at age 10 it seemed to be about a states right to allow slavery. This is an enlightening book that pays attention to excesses on both sides. It makes the disastrous misunderstandings on both sides easier to see.

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Not quite what I expected

So glad I read this even tho I thought it was going to be centered around the American Civil war it does back much further. Well written and well read

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The best there is in my opinion

As the son of a Northern Father and Southern Mother, I’ve never fallen hard on either side of The Civil war. My only goal has been to understand each player in it. Now if you ARE biased for one side, this book might anger you because it will not blame one side. Instead it blames BOTH sides; illustrating how BOTH were indeed driven to a vitriolic fever pitch by “A Disease of the Public Mind”. The only one who seemed to keep his mind about him was Abraham Lincoln. And he— with his genius for timing, was able to navigate the ship of state through & around obstacles like no one else could have. Unfortunately, when the time came for that same mind to navigate reconstruction, John Wilkes Booth silenced it forever; leaving the fate of the nation to vindictive chaos.

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A Flawed Understanding of Why We Fought the War

Faced with the same facts that generations of past historians have analyzed and interpreted, the temptation to spin those facts differently, to make the familiar old story somehow new and startling, must be an occupational hazard for current historians. But while I empathize with the ambition that motivated this book, I can’t agree with the results.

On one level, Thomas Fleming has given us a solid rundown of the events that led up to the war. For me it was a welcome refresher course in what happened, when, and why. But the interpretation of those events is off kilter from the start.

Yes, abolitionists were just as unsparingly offensive as pro-slavery agitators. Yes, they riled up just as much sectional hatred and misunderstanding as did their southern counterparts. New England's self-righteousness was just as infuriating as the South's aristocratic arrogance. But Fleming’s curse-on-both-their-houses approach, and his retrospective appeal for calm, fail to inhabit the tenor of the times he chronicles. Worse, it misses the “precise fact” that Lincoln outlined in his Cooper Union speech:

“All they [the South] ask we could readily grant if we thought slavery right. All we ask they could as readily grant if we they thought it wrong. Their thinking it right and our thinking it wrong is the precise fact upon which depends the whole controversy.”

If, as Fleming urges, the final body count should be adjusted upwards from the generally accepted 600,000+ to a round million (counting postwar deaths from wounds and diseases) that is truly eye-opening. But a deeper understanding of the horrendous human cost of this national tragedy simply underlines the intransigent nature of the issue that precipitated it.

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Eye opening history

One of the best history books I’ve had the chance to pick up, should be read by anyone with an interest in the antebellum period of American history.

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good book for history

fantastic book on slavery and more. I one of the best books ive listened too in years

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The Cure was worse than the Disease

Not much new understanding of the scourge of united States slavery is likely to be discovered in this moderately entertaining overview of the major events and figures in early American history leading up to the death of "Honest" Abe Lincoln in 1865.

Chock full of all the acts, actions and characters you missed while sleeping through Social Studies class, this book is yet another book that the listener has to ask...why exactly was this book written?

There isn't much revision done here. Fleming does demonstrate John Brown was rather misguided. Or evil. Or crazy. Take your pick. And he does a good job of showing the abolitionists pushed for the eradication of slavery with a zealous fervor that often undermined their arguments. And he does describe effectively the southern white fear of a race war if slavery was not allowed to expand. All good and worthwhile to mention.

However, this book comes from a unionist. All of the pages of this book seek to obscure a rather simple fact: the southern states had every right to secede according to the federalized government they helped create in the late 1780s. Unless I missed it, I don't think the author ever once entertained this viewpoint. He did say several times that one character or another said the Union was perpetual, and secession was not authorized. This is blatantly untrue, if you read the notes and founding correspondence. The states never would have ratified the Constitution if they did not have the right to leave it if the general government became tyrannical and inimical to their vested interests. Which clearly is what they thought.

As with any court historian, Lincoln has be shown as a saint. In this volume he is again shown as a sage leader, whose untimely death led to more bitterness and oppression and suffering of the South. If only he had lived, what might have been? Oh, I don't know, he was the man who waged an unconstitutional war against his own countrymen, leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of men, women and children. If you want a more worthwhile portrait of Lincoln listen to "The Real Lincoln" by Thomas DiLorenzo. Lincoln's so called magnanimous attitude towards the South ("we must never view them as enemies") and Grant's so called generous surrender terms granted Lee, and saving of Lee's men from starvation...is somehow undermined by the scorched Earth, total war mass murdering carried out by Sherman and his march to the sea.

A good, factual overview of events, with a distorted understanding for why the war was fought. It wasn't even a civil war. The South formed its own country, it had no interest in conquering the government in Washington, DC. And to push slavery as the primary reason, and not the economic policies and self government desires of the South, as the principle reason for the war is whitewashing to say the least.

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This is the best book I have run across for an explanation of why we fought the Civil War. I can highly recommend this book for anyone interested in a highly readable book written by an academic on the subject of why we fought the Civil War.

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Required reading in our time

The psychological atmosphere described herein is frighteningly familiar in the age of Trump. The whole idea of a "Disease in the public mind," which perceptive observers noted at the time of the civil war, seems to have infected us again.

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