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we are NOT the SAME

we are NOT the SAME

By: Heather Gardner and Lacey Joseph
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We Are Not the Same: Join our comedic journey as Bodybuilder Barbie flexes her muscles against Daria’s dry wit! Dive into the hilarity of life’s twists and turns through the eyes of two contrasting besties who prove that different perspectives lead to the best stories. Tune in for laughs, randomness, and a sprinkle of chaos!





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  • The Co-Star Confessional: When Your Horoscope Calls You Out
    Jul 3 2025

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    Have you ever had an app read your soul so accurately you felt personally attacked? That's exactly what happened when we dove into astrology through the Co-Star app in this unplanned but revealing episode.

    What started as casual conversation about recent life changes quickly transformed into a cosmic deep dive when we began exploring our astrological profiles. The app didn't just tell us generic horoscopes—it called us out on our specific patterns, from relationship sabotage to career self-sabotage, with such precision we couldn't help but laugh (and occasionally gasp) at the accuracy.

    Through our astrological explorations, we uncovered profound insights about ourselves. One of us learned about the walls built to protect against emotional vulnerability, while the other confronted tendencies to chase multiple dreams without completing any. We discussed how these patterns have shaped our approaches to love, work, and personal growth. The app even predicted specific dates for potential life changes, leaving us both skeptical yet curious enough to mark our calendars.

    Perhaps most powerful was our conversation about what it means to be the "main character" in our own lives. The contrast between standing in the spotlight versus empowering others illuminated different but equally valid ways of claiming our importance in the world. These revelations felt especially meaningful as we reflected on our ongoing healing journeys and recent growth.

    Whether you're an astrology enthusiast or skeptic, this episode offers a window into how external perspectives—even from an app—can sometimes reflect truths we already know but haven't fully acknowledged. Join us for laughter, vulnerability, and cosmic validation as we continue our season focused on healing and self-discovery. Follow along with our astrological journey and let us know if the stars have ever read you this accurately!

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    51 mins
  • Milk, Mustard, and Moving Forward
    Jun 24 2025

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    What keeps us locked in cycles of trauma, and how do we finally break free? This raw, vulnerable conversation takes you through our parallel journeys of healing from toxic relationships and traumatic experiences.

    The conversation opens with a crucial insight: toxic relationships aren't awful from day one. They start with genuine connection before gradually eroding boundaries through what we call "breadcrumbing"—offering just enough positive moments to keep you holding on through increasingly difficult times. We share our personal experiences with this pattern and the pivotal moments that finally helped us recognize and escape these dynamics.

    Our discussion reveals how differently trauma can manifest in our lives. While some experiences leave obvious scars, others hide beneath the surface, emerging in unexpected ways years later. We explore how our bodies physically store trauma even when our minds try to deny it, from mysterious hip pain to the strange phenomenon of anniversary reactions. The distinction between genuinely processing grief versus just burying it emerges as a crucial theme.

    The parallels in our healing journeys—from addiction recovery to setting boundaries to recognizing red flags—showcase both universal patterns and highly individual responses to trauma. We share the tools that have helped us along the way, from therapy and ketamine treatments to bodybuilding and music, revealing how creating joy amid healing is not just possible but necessary.

    Take this journey with us as we navigate the messy, non-linear path of trauma recovery with honesty, occasional humor, and deep compassion for ourselves and each other. Whether you're just beginning your healing journey or well along your path, this conversation offers both validation and hope.

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    47 mins
  • Trauma-Rama: When Life Gives You Lemons (Or Tiny Ankles)
    Jun 16 2025

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    The wounds we carry from childhood often define how we navigate adulthood, especially in our relationships. In this deeply personal episode, we pull back the curtain on our experiences growing up with alcoholic parents and how these early traumas shaped who we've become.

    From functioning alcoholics who maintained perfect appearances while chaos reigned behind closed doors, to unpredictable substance abuse that created volatile home environments—we share the raw reality of growing up in households where adult protection was unreliable at best. The conversation reveals how these experiences created our "hyper-independent" tendencies, with both of us developing a fierce self-reliance that made asking for help nearly impossible.

    We explore the painful patterns that emerged in our adult relationships, particularly with manipulative partners who recognized and exploited our vulnerabilities. One host describes the gradual erosion of self-worth through constant negative reinforcement, while the other shares how betrayal by someone close to her children created new layers of trauma for her family. Through these stories, we examine how childhood wounds make us susceptible to harmful relationships, and how recognizing these patterns is the first step toward breaking them.

    The episode also touches on healing methods that have worked for us—from the structure and discipline of bodybuilding to learning how to identify red flags earlier. We discuss the delicate balance between protecting ourselves and remaining open to genuine connection, and how parenting our own children has motivated us to break generational cycles of trauma.

    This conversation marks the beginning of a deeper exploration into trauma and recovery. If you've ever felt alone in your struggles with childhood wounds or toxic relationships, this episode offers validation, understanding, and a reminder that healing—while never linear—is always possible.

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    47 mins
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