• 256: How To Maximize Multifamily Net Operating Income Using Onsite Solar with Owen Barrett
    Jul 3 2025

    In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan speaks with Owen Barrett, founder and CEO of Shine, a solar company built by apartment owners for apartment owners. With a background in finance and clean energy, Owen brings a pragmatic and results-driven mindset to a traditionally misunderstood corner of multifamily investing—onsite solar energy.

    Owen shares how his first exposure to real estate came after achieving financial independence through his solar ventures. Instead of starting small, he jumped into a 64-unit building, testing how large-scale solar could be layered into multifamily investment. That experience, although imperfect, helped shape Shine’s business model: targeting properties with 100+ units where solar not only benefits the environment but also boosts returns.

    Jonathan and Owen examine the financial mechanics of solar energy in multifamily properties, from cost segregation and tax credits to NOI increases and tenant retention. Owen explains how Shine’s proprietary software allows solar installations to serve individually metered units, a longstanding challenge in the space. He also breaks down how syndicators and institutional investors approach solar differently, and why understanding your audience is key when pitching value-add improvements.

    Owen emphasizes that solar is not about selling environmental benefits. It’s about improving the bottom line. But the secondary benefits, such as tenant retention, lower utility inflation, and greater resilience during energy volatility, add long-term value. For syndicators and operators seeking to future-proof their assets, this conversation is packed with strategic thinking, cost-saving tactics, and clear-eyed lessons from someone who installs what he owns.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    • How Owen Barrett transitioned from solar to multifamily real estate

    • Using solar to increase NOI and attract investors

    • Cost segregation, tax credits, and depreciation benefits

    • Why roof condition is a make-or-break factor for installations

    • The difference in decision-making between syndicators and institutions

    • Leveraging solar to reduce tenant utility costs and turnover

    • The reason early due diligence makes or breaks solar ROI

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    47 mins
  • 255: Rebuilding Communities and Redeveloping Housing with Peter Neill
    Jun 30 2025
    In today’s episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Peter Neill, co-founder and partner at GSP REI, for a conversation that blends capital raising, real estate development, and a commitment to rebuilding underserved communities. Peter shares how he moved from a sales and marketing role at a distressed mortgage firm to managing funds focused on affordable and workforce housing throughout the Mid-Atlantic. Along the way, he discovered that long-term success in real estate hinges on experience, consistency, and assembling the right team. Peter reflects on early lessons—managing his first duplex, working alongside seasoned mentors, and learning to value communication as much as capital. His partnership with Ron, a builder with decades of experience, provided Peter with a clear understanding of the construction side of real estate, which is crucial when repositioning distressed single-family homes for long-term rental. Together, their team redevelops blighted homes in cities such as Philadelphia, Baltimore, and parts of South Jersey, focusing on high-quality work and sustainable investment returns. Throughout the episode, Jonathan and Peter discuss the challenges of raising private capital in today’s market, why marketing alone is insufficient without execution, and how Peter’s team utilizes vertical integration to manage construction and property oversight internally. The conversation underscores the importance of knowing your market, especially when working in workforce housing, where local demand and regulation can make or break a deal. They also talk about investor education, red flags in the capital-raising world, and why transparency and authenticity build more trust than flashy pitch decks. Peter emphasizes staying close to the work, whether that means walking properties, managing renovations, or talking to tenants. As someone who raises funds and executes deals, he believes you can’t fake experience, and that humility and honest communication go further than hype. This episode is packed with practical knowledge for anyone managing real estate projects, raising capital, or trying to build a sustainable, ethical investment business in today’s complex market. In this episode, you will hear: Peter Neill’s early transition from distressed mortgages to long-term real estate investing How construction knowledge strengthens investment decisions Aligning marketing efforts with operational execution Key factors that make workforce housing more resilient Structuring investor conversations around trust and clarity Why GSP REI focuses on single-family portfolios and long-term holds Managing property oversight through a vertically integrated model Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: GSP REI website - gsprei.com Accredited Investors Only on YouTube - www.youtube.com/@AccreditedInvestorsOnly/videos Peter Neill’s Facebook page - www.facebook.com/peter.neill.5203 Real Estate Investing on Point on Instagram - www.instagram.com/real_estate_investing_on_point Connect with Peter on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/peter-neill-gsprei Website - www.streamlined.properties YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties Email - info@streamlined.properties Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
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    55 mins
  • 254: Learning To Invest Wisely and Manage Strategically with Tommy Visaggio
    Jun 26 2025
    In today’s episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Tommy Visaggio, Founder and Managing Member of Viza Property Management, for a wide-ranging conversation on investing smart, scaling responsibly, and managing real estate with a long-term mindset. Tommy began his journey with no industry connections, taking an unpaid internship in finance that provided him with early exposure to commercial real estate deals and loan structures. From there, he rolled up his sleeves, learned through experience, and built both a real estate portfolio and a property management company that serves clients throughout New Jersey. Tommy shares how his early deals—flipping homes and buying multifamily properties—taught him the importance of buying right, learning from mistakes, and staying involved with tenants and municipalities. As he expanded into small mixed-use buildings, he discovered the value in providing quality rental units and maintaining strong relationships with local governments. His business grew not just from acquisitions, but also from his ability to self-manage properties and eventually turn that experience into a scalable property management company. The conversation also dives into the business of managing for others. Tommy discusses his approach to building systems, earning trust from landlords, and gradually expanding into third-party management and HOA contracts. Jonathan and Tommy discuss how effective property management can protect investors from risk, enhance tenant retention, and generate more consistent long-term income. They also touch on mixed-use properties as a way to combine residential stability with the upside of commercial retail, especially in emerging Main Street communities. Tommy’s approach emphasizes calculated growth, risk management, and keeping things personal. Whether he’s onboarding a new HOA or helping a landlord turn around a rental, he stays focused on systems, communication, and protecting all parties involved. For newer investors or landlords considering management support, this episode offers a clear look at how to build wisely and why the right relationships matter more than ever. In this episode, you will hear: Starting with a finance background and scaling into real estate What early renovation mistakes taught Tommy about risk and pricing Why South Jersey offers better yield and fewer regulatory challenges How to handle tenant relationships in lower-rent markets Building a property management firm from internal systems Vetting landlords just as carefully as managing tenants Expanding into HOA management and how it's different from rentals Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Viza Property Management website - www.vizapropertymanagement.com Viza Property Management on YouTube - www.youtube.com/@VizaPropertyManagement Find Viza Property Management on Facebook - www.facebook.com/people/Viza-Property-Management/61557462205953 Viza Property Management on Instagram - www.instagram.com/vizapropertymanagement Website - www.streamlined.properties YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties Email - info@streamlined.properties Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
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  • 253: How To Find Fresh Investments With Juiced Returns with Cory Jacobson and Ryan Bevilacqua
    Jun 23 2025
    In today’s episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Cory Jacobson and Ryan Bevilacqua, co-hosts of the Wealth Juice Podcast and co-founders of Juice Enterprises. Their story is a practical roadmap for newer investors and professionals who want to build passive income while staying grounded in their full-time careers. Starting with a simple house hack, Cory and Ryan grew their real estate portfolio through deliberate learning, strong partnerships, and a growing community. The two friends met in college and started investing during the early days of the pandemic. With zero formal training but a shared drive to escape the limitations of a 9-to-5 job, they launched a podcast, began documenting their journey, and connected with mentors and investors. Through their social media and podcast, they built trust and transparency by being open about every step of their process. That authenticity led to investor relationships, real estate partnerships, and larger deals, including multifamily properties in the Northeast and Florida. Jonathan digs into how Cory and Ryan transitioned from duplexes to raising capital for 10-, 20-, and 40-unit projects. They share how they vet partners, stay consistent, and turn mentorship into momentum. Their emphasis on mindset, taking action, and keeping promises to yourself offers a clear path forward for aspiring investors who feel stuck. Whether you’re trying to get your first deal or move from active to passive investing, this episode shows how consistency, education, and the right relationships can help you grow your portfolio and income, without losing authenticity or overcomplicating the process. In this episode, you will hear: Building a brand and community while growing a portfolio The role of house hacking in creating financial freedom Partnering on larger deals by aligning skills with operators Using masterminds and mentorships to speed up growth Helping others invest without sacrificing trust or clarity Getting over analysis paralysis with consistent reps and coaching Turning a podcast into a platform for education and connection Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Wealth Juice Podcast on YouTube - www.youtube.com/@wealthjuiceofficial Wealth Juice on Instagram - instagram.com/wealthjuiceofficial Find Wealth Juice on TikTok - tiktok.com/@wealthjuiceofficial Listen to the Wealth Juice Podcast - podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wealth-juice-real-estate-personal-finance-investing/id1506974626 Website - www.streamlined.properties YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties Email - info@streamlined.properties Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
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    55 mins
  • 252: Building Your Dream Lifestyle Through Real Estate Investing with Eric Burns
    Jun 19 2025
    In today’s episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with Eric Burns, founder of Flowers Capital and a former firefighter turned full-time capital raiser. Eric shares his journey from managing student rentals and duplex renovations to raising funds for large-scale commercial real estate deals—an evolution fueled by burnout, curiosity, and a passion for helping others create passive income. Eric’s real estate story began at the firehouse, where side hustles were common. He jumped into his first student rental without formal training, but with a clear goal: to build financial security outside of his career. Through direct mail and hands-on management, Eric gained valuable experience as a landlord. Over time, though, he found himself trading time for money and recognized it wasn’t sustainable. That led him to masterminds, mentorship, and eventually commercial investing. Jonathan and Eric dig into how capital raising became Eric’s focus and how he approaches it both as an educator and a steward. Eric walks through the importance of partnering with trustworthy operators, managing investor expectations, and matching each opportunity to an investor’s goals and risk tolerance. They also cover how mastermind communities helped Eric sharpen his skills and find alignment with top-tier operators. Throughout the conversation, Eric emphasizes relationships over returns. Whether it’s vetting sponsors, working with new passive investors, or evaluating deals, he’s focused on long-term partnerships. He also shares why transparency, responsiveness, and investor education are at the core of how he does business. This episode offers a clear window into the real work behind raising capital and the mindset shifts that turn investing into a long-term lifestyle strategy. For anyone considering a move from active to passive investing or exploring syndications for the first time, this episode offers grounded advice from someone who has walked both paths. In this episode, you will hear: Moving from hands-on rentals to raising capital for commercial deals Choosing the right mastermind and finding trustworthy mentors Navigating early landlord lessons and learning to lead with service Evaluating sponsors based on integrity, not just performance Managing investor relationships through education and transparency Building passive income without sacrificing trust or long-term alignment Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Flowers Capital - www.flowerscapital.com Follow Eric Burns on Instagram - www.instagram.com/ericburnsofficial Connect with Eric on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/theericburns Website - www.streamlined.properties YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties Email - info@streamlined.properties Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
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    52 mins
  • 251: Finding Highly Vetted and Diversified Assets For Your Capital with Mark Khuri
    Jun 16 2025
    In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Mark Khuri, co-founder of SMK Capital Management, for a focused conversation on passive investing, diversification, and risk reduction through strategic fund structures. With over 20 years of experience, Mark has developed a methodical approach to building real estate portfolios that emphasizes steady returns, low volatility, and long-term growth. Mark shares how he began his career working on residential value-add deals, managing flips and rentals alongside family. As he gained experience, he realized that owning and managing properties directly wasn’t sustainable at scale. That realization led to the creation of SMK Capital, which now specializes in private real estate funds that span multiple asset types, operators, and geographic markets. Jonathan and Mark examine how this model enables investors to spread risk across a range of properties, including mobile home parks, triple-net lease retail, and industrial, and discuss why diversification can lead to more stable returns over time. They also touch on the benefits of private lending and fixed-income strategies, which help generate early-stage cash flow while larger value-add projects are being stabilized. A key part of SMK’s success hinges on operator selection. Mark outlines the firm’s criteria for choosing partners, from their communication style to track record and approach to capital management. He emphasizes the need for transparency and alignment, noting that clear expectations and regular updates are essential to building trust with investors. Jonathan shares his insights on what passive investors should consider when evaluating both funds and single-asset syndications. The discussion provides a clear framework for those seeking more consistency in their returns and less exposure to operational risk. You’ll come away with a better understanding of how fund structures work, how to evaluate sponsors and investment opportunities, and how smaller, under-the-radar assets can complement more traditional real estate investments. For anyone looking to build wealth through passive real estate, this episode is a practical guide to lowering risk and thinking more holistically about long-term investing. In this episode, you will hear: Building wealth through diversification across assets, locations, and timelines Shifting from residential investing to private commercial funds Why funds can outperform single-asset syndications in volatile markets Using private debt and fixed-income strategies to generate early cash flow Real-world examples of risk mitigation across asset classes Evaluating operators and building trust through consistent communication How fund structures support passive investors with long-term goals Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: SMK Capital Management - www.smkcap.com Connect with Mark Khuri on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/mark-khuri-7543821 Website - www.streamlined.properties YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties Email - info@streamlined.properties Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
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    49 mins
  • 250: Navigating Real Estate Development With Confidence with Katie Kim
    Jun 12 2025

    In this 250th episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan welcomes Katie Kim, a third-generation developer and founder of the Development Academy. Katie’s approach to real estate is built on lived experience, starting with childhood council meetings and evolving into full-scale developments that blend economic strategy, relationship-building, and community impact.

    Throughout the episode, Katie shares how consistent preparation, strong partnerships, and structured capital stacks have helped her navigate the often unpredictable world of development. She stresses the importance of building with confidence, a quality that comes from repetition, not just reading.

    Jonathan and Katie also explore the realities of zoning, red tape, and tough public conversations. Katie explains why showing up with a clear plan earns respect and how her Development Academy is helping new developers gain the experience and mentorship they need to launch successful projects.

    If you’re looking for a real-world take on how to break into development or scale your current strategy, this episode delivers straight talk on what works and what to avoid.

    In this episode, you will hear:

    • Katie’s experience growing up in a multigenerational real estate family and learning negotiation early

    • Developing confidence through consistent reps and experience

    • Partnering with clarity and accountability

    • Creating impactful community development through economic incentives and urban infill projects

    • Structuring deals with capital stacks that make sense

    • Preparing thoroughly before every meeting or pitch

    • Blending personal history and professional growth into one career

    • Helping new developers launch through mentorship and hands-on learning

    • Advocating for inclusivity in real estate and focusing on getting the job done regardless of background

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    56 mins
  • 249: Reaping the Rewards of a Diversified Portfolio with Lon Welsh
    Jun 9 2025
    In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with Lon Welsh, founder of Ironton Capital and Your Castle Real Estate, to explore what it takes to transition from active to more passive and diversified real estate investing. With a background that spans flipping homes, self-managing rentals, and launching investment funds, Lon shares how his personal experience shaped the way he helps investors today. The conversation starts with Lon’s early steps in real estate, living below his means, and creating a basement ADU, and expands into his evolution as a syndicator and fund manager. He explains how burnout from hands-on property management pushed him to reimagine his investing strategy, leading to the creation of Ironton Capital’s fund-of-funds structure. The result is a platform designed to serve professionals who want the benefits of real estate without the headaches of daily management. Jonathan and Lon talk through how geographic and asset diversification help manage risk, what investors should look for when evaluating sponsors, and how to align financial decisions with broader life goals. Lon also shares why mindset matters just as much as metrics, and how long-term thinking leads to better outcomes. Whether you're an experienced investor or someone looking to move beyond direct ownership, this episode offers a practical take on what passive investing can actually look like when done right. In this episode, you will hear: Building early financial discipline into real estate strategy Flipping and self-management lessons that still hold value today The role of fund-of-funds structures in simplifying passive investing Diversifying across markets and asset types to reduce exposure Key sponsor traits to look for as a limited partner Matching investment choices with lifestyle and freedom goals Follow and Review: We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts. Simply select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast. Supporting Resources: Ironton Capital’s website - irontoncapital.com Ironton Capital on YouTube - irontoncapital.com/youtube Ironton Capital’s Facebook page - irontoncapital.com/facebook Find Ironton Capital on Instagram - irontoncapital.com/instagram Follow Ironton Capital on LinkedIn - irontoncapital.com/linkedin Get your free copy of “The Complete Guide to Passive Diversified Real Estate Investing” - irontoncapital.com/realestatezen Website - www.streamlined.properties YouTube - www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties TikTok - www.tiktok.com/@trustgreene Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/StreamlinedReal Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties Email - info@streamlined.properties Episode Credits If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.
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    55 mins