Episodes

  • 3: Monsoon Season
    Jul 4 2025

    New Mexico’s summer monsoon is upon us. The rainy season began the last week of June, bringing moist air north from the Gulf of California – pumping up flows in drying rivers, wetting forested landscapes and in the process reducing the threat of catastrophic wildfires, and perhaps most importantly bringing the visceral joy that of rain.

    Streaming up through the mountains of central Mexico, the moisture from what scientists call the “North American Monsoon” brings 50 percent or more of the annual precipitation to many areas of the southwest, from Tucson and Phoenix up through Albuquerque.

    New Mexico’s Middle Rio Grande responds, with monsoon rains temporarily lifting up flows in an otherwise drying river.

    Winter snows falling on the mountain watersheds upstream of us provide the bulk of the water supply for people and ecosystems, concentrated into river valleys as they flow downstream. But monsoon rains add a critical piece of the weather and climate puzzle as communities of the West work to adapt to climate change.

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    16 mins
  • 2: The Agro-Ecosystem of the Middle Rio Grande
    Jun 12 2025

    The Middle Rio Grande is home to not only a myriad of species, but also to the Middle Rio Grande Conservancy District (MRGCD). At first blush, environmental water uses, and agricultural water uses may appear to be in conflict, but the truth is more complicated.

    This month Water Matters hosts Paul Tashjian, Director of Freshwater Conservation for Audubon Southwest, to discuss the agroecosystem of the Middle Rio Grande.

    Tashjian talks about the interconnected water uses throughout the MRGCD benefitted area and explains how closely intertwined the human and nonhuman communities in this region are. He also invites listeners to reach out to local nonprofits that may benefit from volunteer support, including Audubon Southwest, New Mexico Wild, The Nature Conservancy, and Bosque Ecological Monitoring Program.

    Our podcast is produced through the Utton Transboundary Resources Center, scripted by Rin Tara and John Fleck, and edited by Francesca Glaspell. Our music is written and performed by Sairis Perez-Gomez.

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    34 mins
  • Deep Dive: Water for the Navajo Nation
    May 9 2025

    Established by treaty in 1868, the modern boundaries of the Navajo Nation span 27,000 square miles across the deserts of Utah, Arizona, and New Mexico. While its water rights were guaranteed on paper in the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1908 Winters decision, getting actual “wet water” to meet the needs of the nation’s 175,000 residents remains a challenge.

    This month the Utton Center’s Water Matters speaks with attorney Bidtah Becker, a University of New Mexico School of Law graduate who has been serving the Navajo Nation for two decades.

    Becker talks about the challenges of making good on the Supreme Court’s 1908 promise of Native American water rights in a legal landscape fractured by state borders that require the Navajo Nation to negotiate a legal and political landscape to deal with Congress and representatives of the seven U.S. Colorado River Basin states.

    Becker talks about the progress being made in building a water pipeline through the eastern edge of the Navajo Nation – the Navajo-Gallup Water Supply Project.

    She also talks about the challenges facing the Navajo Nation’s efforts to settle its water rights in Arizona, and bring water to communities in the western Navajo Nation, through the Northeastern Arizona Indian Water Rights Settlement Act of 2025.

    Water Matters! is written by Rin Tara and John Fleck of the Utton Transboundary Resource Center, with production and editorial assistance from Francesca Glaspell. Our logo and music were created by Sairis Perez-Gomez.

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    32 mins
  • 1: The San Juan-Chama Project
    Apr 2 2025

    With one of the worst winter snowpacks on record, New Mexico’s water supply forecasts for 2025 look grim. Can we avoid the apocalypse? The Utton Transboundary Resources Center’s Rin Tara and John Fleck talk to Diane Agnew of the Albuquerque Bernalillo County Water Utility Authority about adapting to the realities of a changing climate.

    At a time in early spring when the Rio Grande should be rising, swollen with snowmelt, the Rio Grande through Albuquerque is shrinking instead. In a good year river water imported across the Continental Divide from Colorado can meet the majority of Albuquerque’s drinking water needs. But not this year. By May, Albuquerque will likely have to turn off its river water diversions, falling back to the use of water pumped from the aquifer beneath the city, explains Agnew, Albuquerque’s water rights manager.

    While the news is stark, the taps will keep flowing. And there are hopeful signs about the collaboration needed for the community to get through a water short future, including collaboration with the valley’s agricultural water users, served by the Middle Rio Grande Conservancy District, to help stretch this year’s short supplies. It’s a demonstration that, in the face of challenges, we still have choices as a community about the kind of water future we want to have.

    Resources:

    • Albuquerque Bernalillo County Water Utility Authority Water 2120 long-range plan
    • The San Juan-Chama Project
    • Tracking the flow of the Rio Grande: real time US Geological Survey gage at Albuquerque’s Central Avenue Bridge

    The Utton Transboundary Resources Center’s Water Matters! podcast looks at water and natural resources issues in New Mexico and beyond. Housed at the University of New Mexico School of Law, the Utton Transboundary Resources Center believes in the pursuit of well informed, collaborative solutions to our natural resource challenges. The Utton Transboundary Resources Center’s Sairis Perez-Gomez designed the podcast logo and wrote and performed our theme music and Student Research Assistant Francesca Glaspell produced this episode.

    Rin Tara is a staff attorney specializing in water policy and governance at the Utton Transboundary Resources Center. They are primarily interested in questions of water management in the face of climate change. They have done work in riparian restoration, river connectivity, tribal water sovereignty, climate change adaptation, and water rights. They have authored several papers on topics related to the future of western water management.

    John Fleck is Writer in Residence at the Utton Transboundary Resources Center, University of New Mexico School of Law; and Professor of Practice in Water Policy and Governance in the University of New Mexico Department of Economics. The former director of the University of New Mexico’s Water Resources Program, he is the author of four books on water in the west, including the forthcoming history of Albuquerque’s relationship with the Rio Grande – Ribbons of Green: The Rio Grande and the Making of a Modern American City.

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    20 mins