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The Thing with Feathers: birds and hope with Courtney Ellis

The Thing with Feathers: birds and hope with Courtney Ellis

By: Courtney Ellis
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Stories, experts, and special guests on how birds help us keep looking up.

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  • 99: Undaunted Joy with Shemaiah Gonzalez
    Jun 30 2025

    Shemaiah Gonzalez is back! This time she joins us to unpack her beautiful new book, Undaunted Joy: The Revolutionary Act of Cultivating Delight. My friends, if you need the perfect book to be your nightstand right-be-for-bed companion, this is it. In this collection of short essays, Shemaiah unpacks the small ways uncovering, accepting, and welcoming joy can change our lives.

    The opposite of toxic positivity, she argues for slowing down, being present, and experiencing our lives rather than rushing through them. You’ll meet delight in surprising places like the laundry room, with surprising companions like capybaras, and amidst surprising companions like sorrow.

    Join us for this conversation about cultivating delight. Plus: what is Shemaiah’s least favorite bird? The answer may surprise you!



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    37 mins
  • 98: Hope Within Crisis
    Jun 16 2025

    Have you ever had a crisis of faith? I can point to several points in my life—my mid-teens, my early 20s, and my late 30s—when serious doubts crept in. It can be a fearful and unsettling time, and even more so if we feel alone.

    Authors Catherine McNiel and Jason Hague are no strangers to this type of crisis. Catherine faced her first at the tender age of twelve when the church her father pastored kicked her family to the curb. Jason’s biggest came to him in mid-life when a beloved friend died unexpectedly. In both seasons, they found themselves reeling, aching, confused, and lost.

    But this isn’t the whole story. Jason shares the journey of his oldest son’s autism (where is God when our prayers seem to go unanswered?). And Catherine unpacks how a crisis of this kind can be incredibly painful, with no silver lining… and yet still create space for a deeper faith on the other side.

    Join us for a special episode about hope (and penguins, loons, and Red-winged Blackbirds!) as we dig into Mid-Faith Crisis: Finding a Path Through Doubt, Disillusionment, and Dead Ends. It’s a gentle, truthful book that takes an unflinching look at crisis, pain, and the presence of God.



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    41 mins
  • 97: The Hope of Conservation (Wayne Klockner)
    Jun 2 2025

    I’m a big fan of the ABA. No, not the American Bar Association. Not Applied Behavioral Analysis either. (Though I’m sure they’re both great.)

    I’m a fan of the American Birding Association! The ABA does truly fantastic work on behalf of birds, wild spaces, and birders everywhere. From its young birder initiatives (start ‘em young!) to its bird of the year to its magazine to its podcast… I could go on and on.

    But I don’t have to, because today we have the ABA’s director, Wayne Klockner, with us to talk about the ABA, his life’s work in conservation, and why he can’t ever choose a favorite bird.



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    44 mins
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