Episodes

  • The Fuss About Data Governance Disruption
    Apr 22 2025

    A recent CDO Magazine article begins, "Data governance, as it is currently practiced, is failing. Despite being positioned as essential for data quality, regulatory compliance, and strategic decision-making, data governance often falls short." In this episode we continue our exploration of how and why Data Governance isn't working out so well for most companies. We'll also check in on Todd Corporate as his confirmation hearing for Secretary of Data continues.

    John and Mark are joined by Laura Madsen, author of Disrupting Data Governance. The idiot light is flashing. Do you see it? Does leadership know what to do about it? Do you?

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Open & Introduction; 05:47 – Monologue; 08:31 – Laura Madsen; 25:58 – Dispatches from Rock Bottom; 28:04 – Audio Rorschach Test; 29:27 – Recap & Close

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    31 mins
  • The Fuss About Data Governance, Now What
    Apr 8 2025

    Would anybody disagree that Data Governance isn't working out the way we had all hoped? Yes, we've seen successes, but for the most part it's been like trying to throw an angel food cake under water. As long as you're pushing there's movement. As soon as you stop everything falls away. This episode is the first in a three part series that takes a hard look at Data Governance. We are honored to welcome Gwen Thomas, one of the pioneers of the field to join us at Rock Bottom.

    Returning this season are the Rock Bottom Players: Evan Goldt, Kasey Griffin, Johnathan Whited, Pam Ladley, and Karen Cooper.

    Chapters:

    00:00 - Open & Introduction; 06:21 - Monologue; 09:47 - Gwen Thomas; 30:30 - Dispatches; 32:48 - Recap & Close

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    34 mins
  • The Fuss About DGIQ
    Mar 18 2025

    Recently, John and Mark brought the Rock Bottom Data Feed to the Data Governance & Information Quality (DGIQ) conference in Washington, DC. We let out our nets to see what we could catch, so to speak. Well, the nets came back full. So many great conversations, observations, and insights. Some folks sat down and chatted for a long time. We'll be hearing from a couple of them in upcoming episodes. Others just dropped by for just a few minutes. We've accumulated those bits of conversation into this special episode.

    Chapters

    00:00 - Open & Introduction; 01:05 - Anne-Marie Smith; 02:00 - Mystery Guest; 04:24 - Katrina Ingram; 05:53 - Kristen; 08:46 - Mathias Vercauteren; 13:44 - Nicole Bills; 14:54 - Tom; 18:47 - Neena Sathi; 20:51 - Vince Sathi; 23:59 - Trisha Posser; 26:13 - Tom Redman; 27:06 - Irene Dirks; 28:17 - Ali; 30:07 - Recap & Close

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    32 mins
  • The Fuss About the Constraints of Time
    Mar 4 2025

    Sometimes when recording interviews we ended up with more material than we could use. Certainly not because it wasn't interesting, but rather because we chatted longer than was practical to include or because we veered into topics beyond the scope of the particular episode. Never ones to waste anything, we have accumulated those interesting bits into an episode all their own. Perhaps hearing some of our past guests again will inspire you to go back and listen to their full episodes!

    Chapters

    00:00 - Open & Introduction; 01:54 - Stacey Clark; 04:10 - Wendy Lawhead; 07:13 - Tom Redman; 08:50 - Randy Bean; 16:50 - Bill Tanenbaum; 25:21 - Audio Data Rorshach Test; 29:57 - Recap & Close

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    31 mins
  • The Fuss About Legal Stuff
    Dec 17 2024

    Data is a new type of business asset from a legal perspective. The traditional legal methodologies don't fit. You have confidentiality obligations, licensing and usage considerations, and data quality requirements, especially when it comes to AI. A legal strategy for data needs to be top of mind for leadership. Before it's too late. In this episode we talk with William Tanenbaum, a pioneer in the area of data and the law.

    Chapters

    00:00 – Open & Introduction; 03:31 – Monologue; 06:15 – William Tanenbaum; 25:04 – Dispatches from Rock Bottom; 27:10 – Audio Rorschach Test; 29:10 – Recap & Close

    Featured Image Credit: wp paarz, "Court Gavel - Judge's Gavel - Courtroom," 2016. flickr.com. Some rights reserved.

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    30 mins
  • The Fuss About Analytics Management
    Dec 3 2024

    When you look in the dictionary between "hard place" and "rock" you will find "analytics management." Data Consumers demand high-quality data. Data Producers say it's good enough to run the business so it's good enough for you. Management wants peace and quiet. When everything is running smoothly you're invisible. When it's not...

    Our guest is Deep Sogani, Vice President and Chief of Enterprise Data at Personify Health. He has lived analytics management at all levels at several companies, bringing a breadth and depth of experience here to Rock Bottom.

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Open & Introduction; 03:55 – Monologue; 06:38 – Deep Sogani; 25:32 – Dispatches from Rock Bottom; 27:38 – Audio Data Rorschach Test; 29:06 – Recap & Close

    Featured Image Credit: Elyse Horvath, "Now serving 66," 2015. flickr.com. Some rights reserved.

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    30 mins
  • The Fuss About Data Value
    Nov 19 2024

    Everyone says that data has value, but what does that mean? How do you measure that value? This week we talk a little less about people and a little more about business and monetization. Our guest is Doug Laney, author of the bestselling book, Infonomics.

    Chapters

    00:00 – Open & Introduction; 03:10 – Monologue; 06:03 – Doug Laney; 26:02 – Dispatches from Rock Bottom; 28:08 – Audio Rorschach Test; 30:35 – Recap & Close

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    32 mins
  • The Fuss About Data Driven
    Nov 5 2024

    According to some research, about half of large organizations are“Data Driven,” meaning they are "driving business innovation with data." According to other research, that number is about half of that. But wait, isn’t that what data is for in the first place? Not good enough! So in this episode, we call BS on Data Driven.

    Our guest is Randy Bean, bestselling author of Fail Fast, Learn Faster: Lessons in Data-Driven Leadership in an Age of Disruption, Big Data, and AI, and a regular contributor to Forbes, Harvard Business Review, and MIT Sloan Management Review on Data & AI leadership.

    Chapters:

    00:00 – Open & Introduction; 06:39 – Monologue; 09:22 – Randy Bean; 26:13 – Dispatches from Rock Bottom; 28:19 – Audio Rorschach Test; 29:55 – Recap & Close

    Other Resources:

    Surveys Cited in Dispatches: ThoughtSpot, Software Development Times, Wavestone (New Vantage Partners)

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    31 mins
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