The Other 80

By: Claudia Williams
  • Summary

  • The Other 80 podcast — brought to you by Claudia Williams at UC Berkeley School of Public Health — hosts real, honest dialogue about the things that help keep people healthy beyond traditional medical care, like housing, social connections and food, and the cutting edge policies, research and programs supporting whole person health. Join former White House advisor, entrepreneur and host Claudia Williams for deep conversations with the innovators, implementers, researchers and policymakers bringing these new models to life. We’ll talk about what’s working, what’s not and how to move towards whole person health rapidly and equitably across the US.
    Copyright 2025 Claudia Williams
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Episodes
  • Covered California: A Startup in Government with Dr. Monica Soni
    Apr 23 2025

    California is full of hardworking people—nurses, teachers, delivery drivers, baristas—who keep our communities running. Many of them live paycheck-to-paycheck, making too much to qualify for most government benefits, but not enough to afford the basics. For nearly 2 million Californians, Covered California provides a critical lifeline, offering access to affordable health insurance and now basic needs support. Dr. Monica Soni, Chief Medical Officer of Covered California, joins Claudia to talk about the program’s important and expanding role in the California landscape.

    We discuss:

    • What the working poor really need: breathing room in their budgets to afford healthy food
    • Operating a startup within government
    • How collaboration across Covered California, Medi-Cal and CalPERS – which together cover 45% of Californians – will drive faster and more aligned health improvement in California

    Monica’s team uses experiments and user research to shape every aspect of the program:

    “But I do think in our DNA is this idea of innovation. In-house, we have a research team that does randomized controlled trials. We're committed to hyper transparency. Almost all of our data is released. We stratify it by everything we can think of to really identify where there might be pockets of coverage that aren't there or outcomes that are suboptimal. And we do a lot of deep listening with consumers and with the community to help inform what we do.“

    Relevant Links

    • Read more about Covered California’s Innovative Program to Improve Population Health
    • See the details on Covered California’s Data and Research tools
    • Announcement of the launch of Covered Californians Population Health Investments
    • More info on how Covered California uses email nudges for enrollment

    About Our Guest

    Dr. S. Monica Soni is the Chief Medical Officer, and a Chief Deputy Executive Director at Covered California, leading the organization’s Health Equity and Quality Transformation division. In this capacity she is responsible for health equity, health care strategy, medical policy, and other clinical operations to continuously improve not only the health services provided through Covered California’s contracted health plans, but also California’s delivery system.

    She is a board-certified internal medicine physician with more than a decade of experience working in both inpatient and outpatient settings and continues to see patients. She is an Associate Professor within the UCLA Department of Medicine and the Charles R. Drew University Department of Internal Medicine, where she is committed to residency diversification and pipeline development.

    Prior to joining Covered California, Dr. Soni served as Associate Chief Medical Officer within Evolent Health focused on the delivery of high-quality, cost-effective specialty care for the over 16 million supported Medicaid lives across the United States. During her time at the organization, she played a critical role in clinical informatics, provider engagement, value-based strategies and innovation. Dr. Soni also served as the Director of Specialty Care for the Los Angeles County Department of Health

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    42 mins
  • Health Interrupted: The Stories of Six Recently Fired Federal Workers
    Apr 9 2025

    In the wake of massive layoffs at HHS - and so many other federal agencies and programs - we are sharing the powerful stories of federal workers who had no choice but to leave their important work when they were fired post-election. You’ll hear from a former marine who was improving primary care for fellow veterans, a child of farmworkers who was expanding economic opportunities for rural communities and a technologist who was improving the organ transplant distribution system. They used their exquisite talents to help communities thrive and connect people with care they desperately needed. And now they aren’t.

    Relevant Links

    If you’re interested in hiring one of the amazing leaders who shared their story in this episode, connect with them on LinkedIn:

    Andrew Lennox: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewlennoxmi/

    Aileen Wood: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aileen-wood-163585108/

    Jesus Morillo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesusmurillo97/

    Amy Paris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-paris-4950831/

    Ashley Hackett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashley-hackett/

    Jennifer Robinson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-robinson-phd-mph/

    Connect With Us

    For more information on The Other 80 please visit our website - www.theother80.com. To connect with our team, please email claudia@theother80.com and follow us on twitter @claudiawilliams and LinkedIn

    Subscribe to The Other 80 on YouTube so you never miss our video extras or special video episodes!

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    34 mins
  • Medicaid on the Brink with Katie Heidorn, Kody Kinsley & Larry Levitt
    Mar 26 2025

    With the House approving a plan to slash $880 billion from the federal budget, all eyes are turning to Medicaid as the most likely source of cuts. I asked former North Carolina Health Secretary Kody Kinsley, KFF’s Larry Levitt and California Health Care Foundation’s Katie Heidorn to join me to discuss the likely shape and impact of proposed cuts, and take questions from UC Berkeley students.

    Kody called it a “self-licking ice cream cone”—cuts that destabilize the government, leading to further cuts. Larry warned of formula battles that will soon erupt. Katie laid out the devastating effects on state budgets.

    We’ve also released this episode as a full video episode on YouTube. Subscribe to The Other 80 YouTube channel for video extras, video episodes and viral healthcare policy content. Click here to watch this episode in full.

    Watch the full VIDEO version of this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X110GShMTtE&t=52s

    Relevant Links

    • KFF: The Public’s View on Potential Changes to Medicaid
    • KFF: Impact of Medicaid Per Capita Cap
    • Kody Kinsley testimony to Congress on Medicaid
    • Pre-election episode with Larry Levitt
    • KFF: Can Republicans cut $880 Billion without Slashing Medicaid?
    • CBPP: Impact of Medicaid Cuts
    • CHCF: Defending Medi-Cal in 2025

    About Our Guests

    Katie Heidorn is the director of state health policy at CHCF, where she leverages the foundation’s data, expertise, and partnerships to help California’s state government make informed decisions about health care. Katie is based in CHCF’s Sacramento office.

    Katie has nearly two decades of experience working in health policy, government, and nonprofits and is a skilled leader, facilitator, and communicator. She comes to CHCF after more than two years as executive director for the Insure the Uninsured Project (ITUP). Before that, Katie was the government affairs advocate for Health Net and the development director and policy lead at the nonprofit California Coverage and Health Initiatives. Katie spent a decade in California state government, including as a deputy secretary for the California Health and Human Services Agency and principal consultant in the Senate Appropriations Committee. She is also an alumna of the California Senate Fellows Program.

    Katie received her master’s degree in Public Administration from the University of Southern California and bachelor’s degree in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology and Comparative Literature from the University of California, Davis.

    Source: https://www.chcf.org/person/katie-heidorn/

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    54 mins
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