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The Grinders Table

The Grinders Table

By: Uwem Uwemakpan
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The Grinders Table Podcast is your opportunity to sit at the table with entrepreneurs, innovators and leaders who are shaking things up in their industry. Each other week Uwem will interview these amazing thought-leaders to uncover how they've done it and learn something new in the process. Join me on the regular to hear how they dared to defy the odds and live their own success story... or epic failure!Uwem Uwemakpan Economics Management Management & Leadership
Episodes
  • The Outlier's Path: Building Africa's Healthcare Future with Ayodeji Alaran (Founder, PBR Insights)
    Jul 1 2025

    What do you do when you discover a $281 billion problem that global pharmaceutical companies can't solve? If you're Ayodeji Alaran, you leave your corporate job and build the solution from your house in Lagos.

    In this episode, Ayodeji shares the remarkable journey from pharmacy school to founding PBR Life Sciences, now building one of Africa's largest healthcare datasets. This isn't just another startup story - it's a masterclass in strategic thinking, long-term vision, and the power of being an outlier.


    What You'll Learn:

    • The "precedence principle" he uses to hire only outliers for his team
    • How PBR builds products customers actually want (hint: they never build based on their own ideas)
    • Why he believes African businesses suffer from "short-sightedness"
    • The difference between building AI models from scratch vs. adapting Western algorithms for African markets
    • Why "your entrepreneurial life started way before you started entrepreneurship"


    Ayodeji's philosophy that "every problem has a solution" isn't just optimism - it's the foundation for building solutions that could reshape how the world thinks about African healthcare.

    Connect with Ayodeji on LinkedIn and follow PBR Life Sciences for updates on their expansion across Africa.

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    33 mins
  • Why Africa Needs Boring First with Bernard Laurendeau
    Jun 1 2025

    Bernard Laurendeau built Ethiopia's first licensed payment system operator, advised the Prime Minister's office on job creation, and now operates from Tokyo helping Japanese billions find their way into African markets. But he has a contrarian message: Africa needs to stop chasing sexy tech and focus on boring infrastructure first.

    In this conversation, we explore:

    • Why he respects unknown Lagos entrepreneurs more than Mark Zuckerberg
    • How Ethiopia needs 10,000 new jobs daily to avoid catastrophe
    • Why aid has been "market disrupting" for African development
    • The difference between being a cultural chameleon and having real cultural intelligence
    • His journey from management consultant to fintech CEO and back
    • Why African entrepreneurs are the "Indiana Jones and MacGyvers" of business

    Bernard shares candid insights about building in hostile environments, the importance of patient capital, and why African leaders need to become more comfortable with power. His unique perspective as someone who's navigated Ethiopian, French, American, and Japanese business cultures offers invaluable lessons for anyone interested in emerging markets.

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    38 mins
  • When Revolution Meets Innovation: Dr. Houda Ghozzi's Journey from Academia to Ecosystem Builder
    May 18 2025

    Dr. Houda Ghozzi, founder of Open Startup (OST), shares her journey from professor to pan-African ecosystem builder. Following Tunisia's revolution, she transformed uncertainty into opportunity, now helping young entrepreneurs across 19 African countries develop through "hope, skills, and exposure."

    Houda discusses entrepreneurship as a common language that transcends borders, the evolution of OST into the "Y-Combinator of deep tech," and why Africa's innovation story requires patience rather than just focusing on exits.

    Her insights on cross-border collaboration, AI opportunities, and policy frameworks reveal a compelling vision for Africa's entrepreneurial future—one in which young people build solutions to local problems with global relevance.


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    33 mins
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