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The Covert Narcissism Podcast

The Covert Narcissism Podcast

By: Renee Swanson Bleav
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Covert narcissistic abuse crushes one’s soul. This podcast is devoted to understanding covert narcissistic abuse, its effect on the victims, and how to heal.Renee Swanson Hygiene & Healthy Living Personal Development Personal Success Psychology Psychology & Mental Health Relationships Social Sciences
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  • Implode or Explode: How Covert Narcissists React When You Call Them Out
    Jun 29 2025

    What happens when you finally speak the truth to a covert narcissist? Whether you’re pointing out a small forgotten chore or confronting them about a huge betrayal, the emotional fallout can feel overwhelming and confusing.

    In this episode, we’re diving deep into the two most common narcissistic reactions to being called out: the emotional implosion of shame and the defensive explosion of blame.

    Learn why narcissists either spiral into shame-filled self-pity or launch into rage and blame-shifting—and why both reactions are designed to avoid accountability.

    We’ll explore:

    • The difference between a narcissistic implosion vs. explosion

    • Real-life examples of how each reaction looks and feels

    • Why these reactions derail the original conversation

    • How to protect your peace when you’re caught in this emotional storm

    If you’ve ever found yourself comforting the person who hurt you… or defending yourself against an emotional attack after calling out their behavior… this episode is for you.

    Narcissist reaction to being called out, narcissistic collapse, narcissistic rage, covert narcissism, emotional abuse, narcissistic defense mechanisms, how narcissists react to confrontation, narcissistic accountability avoidance

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    22 mins
  • Is This Really Healing… or Just Behavior Management? The Dry Drunk Parallel in Covert Narcissistic Abuse
    Jun 26 2025

    When the yelling stops, the lies fade, and the manipulative games come to a halt… does it mean they are getting better?

    In this episode, we explore the confusing and disorienting experience of living with someone who has changed their behaviors, but hasn’t done the real emotional work underneath.

    Drawing a parallel with the concept of a "dry drunk," we’ll unpack why behavior management without inner healing leaves survivors of covert narcissistic abuse still feeling unsafe, unseen, and emotionally alone.

    We’ll dive into:

    • What a “dry drunk” actually is

    • The emotional wounds that fuel both addiction and narcissistic behaviors

    • Why things sometimes feel worse after the behavior stops

    • The difference between true healing and surface-level change

    • How to trust your gut when something still feels off

    If you’ve ever found yourself thinking, “I should be happy… but I’m not”—this episode is for you.

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    21 mins
  • But Do You Really Care: How Covert Narcissists Fake Empathy
    Jun 22 2025

    Empathy — we all think we know what it means, until we’re in a relationship where it’s missing. Covert narcissists are often skilled at sounding emotionally intelligent. They can say the right words, mirror emotional language, and even cry on cue — but something still feels off. That’s because what they offer isn’t real empathy; it’s a performance.

    In this episode, we explore the difference between true empathy and intellectual mimicry, revealing how covert narcissists can talk the talk while leaving you emotionally starved. You’ll hear real-life examples of how this plays out, how it erodes your sense of self, and why it’s not your fault that their words never seem to reach your heart.

    If you’ve ever asked, “Why do I still feel so alone when I’m not alone?” — this episode is for you.

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    19 mins
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love this podcast can finally get some form of validation for what I was experiencing.

clarity...

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Great information and stories! Eye opening not only about CNs but also healthy self reflection. Love it

Empowering

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Wow, I can’t say enough about this podcast. As someone who has been married to a covert narc for 16 years Renee Swanson covers all the bases and checks all the boxes on CN. I had my doubts if my wife was really a CN but after listening to a few episodes I’m as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow that this is exactly what I’m dealing with. So accurate it’s scary.

The audio Bible of covert narcissism

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This entire podcast has opened my eyes and changed my perspective on what I thought was just a normal way of living, despite feeling and knowing that something wasn't right. thank you Renee Swanson for being vulnerable and open about your life so that the FOG could be lifted from my eyes. May God continually bless you for what you are doing.

Enlightening!

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