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The Better Leaders Better Schools Podcast with Daniel Bauer

The Better Leaders Better Schools Podcast with Daniel Bauer

By: Daniel Bauer
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 The BETTER LEADERS BETTER SCHOOLS podcast is in the TOP 0.5% most downloaded shows of over 2 million podcasts across the world. The BLBS show was created for RUCKUS MAKERS in education -- those out-of-the-box school leaders making change happen. Launched in 2015, this category-defining podcast in educational leadership has helped over 1 MILLION leaders LEVEL UP. Each week host DANIEL BAUER has a conversation with a leadership expert and invites you to listen in. Turn your commute, chores, or workout into professional development and then GO MAKE A RUCKUS! BLBS is the #1 downloaded podcast for school leaders.© 2015 Better Leaders Better Schools Education
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  • Veronica Holyoke on Breaking the Myth of Solitary Leadership

    Veronica Holyoke on Breaking the Myth of Solitary Leadership
    Jun 25 2025

    The Ruckus Report

    Quick take: The "lone wolf" leader is a toxic myth that's burning out school administrators and failing students. Veronica Holyoke proves that transformational leadership happens in community, not isolation — and one hour a week can change everything.

    Meet Your Fellow Ruckus Maker

    Veronica Holyoke is a 25-year education veteran and Utah's 2024 Assistant Principal of the Year. A former 5th grade teacher with master's degrees in Curriculum and Instruction and Educational Leadership, she's spent her fourth year as an elementary Assistant Principal in Jordan School District. Beyond her accolades, Veronica has navigated supporting her husband through serious disability while excelling in her leadership role — proving that community support transforms both professional and personal resilience.

    Breaking Down the Old Rules 🔨

    In this episode, Veronica Holyoke challenges traditional education paradigms:

    Key Insight #1: Imposter Syndrome Isn't Permanent

    • What's broken: Leaders believing they must have all the answers and can't show vulnerability or uncertainty

    • The shift: Embrace community support where every voice matters, regardless of title or experience level

    • Impact: Confidence grows, authentic leadership emerges, and the toxic cycle of isolation breaks

    Key Insight #2: Weekly Support Beats Yearly Burnout

    • What's broken: The expectation that school leaders should figure everything out alone while pouring into everyone else

    • The shift: Prioritize one hour per week for consistent community support and professional growth

    • Impact: Leaders go to bed happier every Tuesday, face challenges with renewed energy, and sustain their passion for the work

    Key Insight #3: Personal Growth Drives Professional Excellence

    • What's broken: Separating personal wellness from professional performance, leading to unsustainable leadership practices

    • The shift: Invest in whole-person support that addresses both home and work challenges

    • Impact: When leaders are cared for, they can better care for staff and students — creating award-winning school cultures

    Quotable Ruckus

    "I could only take care of my staff and students because I was being taken care of because of the mastermind group." – Veronica Holyoke

    Your Do School Different Challenge

    Ready to implement these ideas? Start here:

    1. Tomorrow: Make a list of things you do weekly to "fill your bucket" — where does community support rank?

    2. This Month: Find one hour per week to connect with other leaders outside your system for growth and support

    3. This Semester: Build or join a community where you can be 100% authentic about your challenges and victories

    Connect & Continue

    • 🎯 Get the full episode transcript:here

    • 🔗 Follow Veronica Holyoke: veronica.holyoke@jordandistrict.org

    • 💪 Join the Ruckus Maker Movement: https://ruckusmakers.club/join

    Do you Subscribe to the Ruckus Maker Newsletter?

    Do School Different 3x a Week. ✉ Join for FREE: here

    Today's RUCKUScast in Partnership with:

    IXL Meet your students where they are and take them where they need to go. Join over 1 million teachers who trust IXL to drive data-informed excellence in their classrooms. 🔍 Learn more: here

    Expressability K12 Your inbox isn't a task manager. Your mind isn't for storing mundane processes. It's time to break free. With Expressability K12, Ruckus Makers can prioritize student success by offloading time-sucking tasks. 🔍 Learn more: here

    ODP Business Solutions "Our STEAM program is too complicated" = Code for "We're doing it wrong." Stop letting fear kill innovation. Some leaders are transforming STEAM with a three-part framework that's not what you think. 🔍 Get the playbook:here

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    28 mins
  • Punching the Shark: Why Teacher Retention Beats Recruitment Every Time

    Punching the Shark: Why Teacher Retention Beats Recruitment Every Time
    Jun 18 2025
    The Ruckus Report Quick take: Most districts are dumping water into leaky buckets while wondering why they can't fill them. Nate Eklund shows us why we've been solving the wrong problem — and how "punching the shark" creates the workplace conditions that make educators want to stay. Meet Your Fellow Ruckus Maker Nate Eklund is the founder and CEO of Vital Network, a national organization focused on improving educator retention and well-being through workplace improvements. A former classroom teacher and author of How Was Your Day at School? Improving Dialogue about Teacher Job Satisfaction, Nate brings deep experience and research-backed insight to the conversation on creating sustainable, joyful workplaces for educators everywhere. Breaking Down the Old Rules 🔨 In this episode, Nate Eklund challenges traditional education paradigms: Key Insight #1: We Don't Have a Recruitment Problem — We Have a Retention Problem What's broken: Districts frantically recruiting new teachers while ignoring why good ones leave The shift: Focus on the "leaky bucket" — in Minnesota, there are more licensed teachers NOT teaching than teaching (enough to fill the Vikings stadium) Impact: When you fix workplace conditions instead of just hiring more people, you solve the math problem at its source Key Insight #2: Burnout Isn't a Personal Failing — It's Environmental What's broken: Treating burnout as individual weakness ("eat more kale, get more sleep") The shift: Recognize burnout as systemic depletion that no amount of self-care can overcome — you can't "kale your way out of your fifth reading curriculum in two years" Impact: Leaders stop blaming teachers and start designing better workplace conditions that prevent burnout Key Insight #3: There Are Two Versions of Every Educator What's broken: Accepting that some educators are just "difficult" or "burned out" The shift: Understanding that everyone has a "fired up" version and a "deflated" version — external factors determine which one shows up Impact: Instead of writing people off, leaders create conditions where the best version of every educator can thrive Quotable Ruckus "You can dump a lot of water into it and invest a lot of energy getting the water into the bucket, but if the bucket's leaking, you've got a fundamental math problem." – Nate Eklund Your Do School Different Challenge Ready to implement these ideas? Start here: Tomorrow: Ask yourself: "What external factors are keeping my best educators from showing up as their best selves?" This Month: Survey your staff about workplace conditions — not just morale, but actual day-to-day systems and decision-making processes This Semester: Implement one "Punch the Shark" moment — tackle an uncomfortable workplace issue head-on with your team Connect & Continue 🎯 Get the full episode transcript:here 🔗 Follow Nate Eklund: Twitter 🔗 Vital Network: www.vitalnetwork.com 🔗 Follow Vital on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/vitalnetwork 💪 Join the Ruckus Maker Movement: https://ruckusmakers.club/join Do you Subscribe to the Ruckus Maker Newsletter? Do School Different 3x a Week. Join for FREE here:here Today's RUCKUScast in Partnership with: IXL Meet your students where they are and take them where they need to go. Join over 1 million teachers who trust IXL to drive data-informed excellence in their classrooms. 🔍 Learn more:here Expressability Your inbox isn't a task manager. Your mind isn't for storing mundane processes. It's time to break free. With Expressability, Ruckus Makers can prioritize student success by offloading time-sucking tasks. 🔍 Learn more:here ODP Business Solutions Stop letting compliance kill innovation. Some leaders are transforming their campuses with flexible solutions that actually work for modern learning environments. 🔍 Learn more:here Twelve Practices LLC © 2025 | If Education Ain't a Bit Disruptive, Then What Are Your Students Learning?
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    42 mins
  • Building Culture That Goes Beyond the Wall

    Building Culture That Goes Beyond the Wall
    Jun 15 2025
    The Ruckus Report Quick take: If your school has beautiful values painted on the walls but nobody's living them, you're running a theater, not a school. Jimmy Casas exposes the brutal difference between what we say and what we do. Meet Your Fellow Ruckus Maker Jimmy Casas has been an educator for over 30 years, serving twenty-two years as a school leader. Under his leadership, his school was named one of the Best High Schools in the country three times by Newsweek and US News & World Report. Jimmy was named the 2012 Iowa Secondary Principal of the Year and was selected as runner-up NASSP 2013 National Secondary Principal of the Year. In 2014, Jimmy was invited to the White House to speak on the Future Ready Schools pledge. Jimmy is also the author of ten books, including the Washington Post's best-selling book CULTURIZE: Every Student. Every Day. Whatever It Takes, which has sold over 350,000 copies to date. Jimmy is the owner and CEO of J Casas & Associates, where he and his team serve as professional leadership coaches for school and district leaders across the country. Breaking Down the Old Rules 🔨 In this episode, Jimmy Casas challenges traditional education paradigms: Key Insight #1: Systems Beat Inspiration Every Time What's broken: Unorganized leaders who scramble and make their teams scramble, destroying credibility and culture The shift: Create systematic approaches like the "summer list" and culturized journal to capture what needs attention without losing momentum Impact: Leaders stay organized, teams trust the process, and nothing falls through the cracks Key Insight #2: Culture Is Behavior, Not Posters What's broken: Schools with beautiful mission statements on walls but no observable evidence of those values in action The shift: Ask "When I walk into your classroom, what will I see that tells me you're building relationships with kids?" Impact: Intentional observation leads to measurable culture change and real student achievement Key Insight #3: Excellence Is Your Responsibility What's broken: Settling for average because it's easier and letting others pull you down to status quo The shift: Walk in every day believing you can make an impact and help others find their way back when they lose direction Impact: Leaders create environments where children look forward to class and adults look forward to work Quotable Ruckus "Don't let anybody take away your excellence because the world is full of average." – Jimmy Casas Your Do School Different Challenge Ready to implement these ideas? Start here: Tomorrow: Start a "summer list" with your team - every time something comes up that needs deeper attention, add it to the list instead of letting it consume your mental energy This Month: Pick one core value and define what you'll actually observe when you walk into classrooms - what will kids be doing? What will teachers be doing? This Semester: Create your own reflection system (journal, digital tool, or team process) to track meaningful experiences and undercurrents you're creating Connect & Continue 🎯 Get the full episode transcript:here 🔗 Follow Jimmy Casas: Jimmy Casas 💪 Join the Ruckus Maker Movement:here Do you Subscribe to the Ruckus Maker Newsletter? Do School Different 3x a Week. Join for FREE here. Today's RUCKUScast in Partnership with: IXL Meet your students where they are and take them where they need to go. Join over 1 million teachers who trust IXL to drive data-informed excellence in their classrooms. 🔍 Learn more: here Expressability K12 Your inbox isn't a task manager. Your mind isn't for storing mundane processes. It's time to break free. With Expressability K12, Ruckus Makers can prioritize student success by offloading time-sucking tasks. 🔍 Learn more: here ODP Business Solutions "Our STEAM program is too complicated" = Code for "We're doing it wrong." Stop letting fear kill innovation. Some leaders are transforming STEAM with a three-part framework that's not what you think. 🔍 Get the playbook: here Twelve Practices LLC © 2025 | If Education Ain't a Bit Disruptive, Then What Are Your Students Learning?
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    46 mins
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