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That Wellness Podcast with Natalie Deering: Internal Family Systems (IFS) with a Twist

That Wellness Podcast with Natalie Deering: Internal Family Systems (IFS) with a Twist

By: Natalie Deering
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 We all have parts and all parts are welcome! In this podcast, licensed mental health therapist and IFS Level 2 practitioner Natalie Deering dives into all things wellness while adding an IFS twist. Natalie provides interesting interviews, personal chats, and guided meditations all while incorporating an internal family systems therapy perspective.Copyright 2023 All rights reserved. Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health
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  • Transpersonal IFS: Where Consciousness and Self Collide with Chris Hancock

    Transpersonal IFS: Where Consciousness and Self Collide with Chris Hancock
    Jul 7 2025

    What happens when Internal Family Systems meets the mystical? In this episode I’m joined once again by therapist, teacher, and spiritual guide Chris Hancock to explore Transpersonal Internal Family Systems (T-IFS)—a sacred weaving of parts work with direct connection to the Divine.

    Together, we explore how T-IFS opens portals to higher realms of healing, the many expressions of Divine love and light, and how spiritual beings—including Mother Mary and Isis—can participate in unburdenings and transformation. Chris also shares his process of spiritual awakening and the path that led him to co-create this multidimensional form of healing. I share my own powerful T-IFS session with Chris, including an emotional message received from Mother Mary that brought me to tears.

    This episode is a testament to what becomes possible when we listen deeply, surrender, and allow Love itself to lead the way.

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    In this episode, we discuss:

    • What is Transpersonal IFS and how it evolved

    • The many expressions of the Divine and how they show up in healing

    • How Chris integrates higher realms into unburdenings

    • Stories from powerful T-IFS sessions, including guides, ancestors, and angelic presences

    • Parts that block access to the Divine and how to gently be with them

    • My personal experience with Mother Mary and Isis during a T-IFS session

    • The emotional and sacred message Chris received from Mother Mary the day after our session.

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    About Chris Hancock

    Chris Hancock, LCSW, ACMHP is a licensed therapist with over 26 years of experience and the heart behind Therapy Outside the Box, based in Nashville, TN. His journey through burnout, mystical awakening, and surrender to Divine guidance led him to develop a unique healing modality known as Transpersonal IFS (T-IFS)—a powerful blend of IFS, spiritual gnosis, and multidimensional light transmission.

    Chris works in direct relationship with Divine Feminine and Divine Masculine archetypes and is a devoted channel of Mother Mary, offering deeply sacred healing experiences that are grounded in love, unity, and soul remembrance.

    Connect with Chris:

    • Website: www.therapyoutsidethebox.com

    • Instagram: @therapyoutsidethebox

    • Phone: 615.430.2778

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    Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/

    Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact

    Instagram: @nataliedeering

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    1 hr and 17 mins
  • Opening the Inner World: Divine Inflow, Parts Work & Swedenborgian Wisdom with Chelsea Odhner, Robert Falconer & Jonathan Rose

    Opening the Inner World: Divine Inflow, Parts Work & Swedenborgian Wisdom with Chelsea Odhner, Robert Falconer & Jonathan Rose
    Jun 23 2025
    What if our inner parts weren’t just fragments of the psyche—but vessels designed to receive divine love? My guests today are Chelsea Odhner, Robert Falconer, and Jonathan S. Rose—co-authors of the new book Opening the Inner World: Spiritual Healing, Internal Family Systems, and Emanuel Swedenborg. Together, we explore the playful spirit that brought this project to life and the profound insights that emerged at the intersection of IFS therapy and Swedenborgian spirituality. We discuss Swedenborg’s life and legacy, the idea of spiritual awakening as universally accessible, and how our parts—when burdened—can block access to divine inflow. The authors share how Swedenborg’s theology aligns with the IFS model, especially around the belief that healing comes from within, through dialogue, compassion, and connection to something greater. This episode is a heartfelt, curious, and spiritually charged invitation to see your inner world not as a problem to fix—but as a sacred system ready to be witnessed, healed, and loved. __________________________ Topics We Explore: ✨ The joy and creativity behind writing Opening the Inner World 📖 Who was Emanuel Swedenborg, and why do his teachings still matter? 💫 Spiritual awakenings and how we all have access to the Divine 🚪 Why parts can block that access—and how to gently open the door 💞 The soul as a vessel for divine inflow, and parts as vessels too 🗣 Why dialoguing with parts is essential—meditation alone isn’t enough 🏡 “The internal household” and learning to relate to each part with reverence 🌐 Porosity of the mind and the role of collective consciousness 🧩 How Swedenborg’s teachings and IFS therapy beautifully complement one another ______________________ About the Guests: Chelsea Rose Odhner is a lifelong student of Swedenborg’s teachings, an IFS practitioner and coach, and the current Vice President of Publishing at the Swedenborg Foundation. Her work weaves theology, embodiment, and healing into a compassionate, grounded practice of spiritual development. 🔗 https://locusofhealing.com Robert Falconer is a globally respected IFS educator and author of Many Minds, One Self and The Others Within Us. His work explores the porous nature of the psyche and the sacredness of all parts—especially those that carry burdens from beyond the self. 🔗 http://robertfalconer.us Jonathan S. Rose, Ph.D., is a renowned Swedenborgian scholar and translator. As the Series Editor of the New Century Edition of Swedenborg’s works, he’s dedicated his life to making Swedenborg’s ideas accessible and actionable for modern spiritual seekers. 🔗 https://swedenborg.com __________________________ Get the Book: Opening the Inner World: Spiritual Healing, Internal Family Systems, and Emanuel Swedenborg 📖 On Amazon 📖 From Swedenborg Foundation Upcoming Retreat: Chelsea is honored to be facilitating an in-person retreat hosted by the Swedenborg Foundation this summer: "Inflow: A Retreat for Embodying Swedenborg’s Ideas Through Internal Family Systems" 📍 August 8–10, 2025 at Harmony Mountain House in Phillipsburg, NJ 🧘‍♀️ Learn More & Register _________________________ This Episode is Sponsored by: Heart of Caldera IFS & Wellness: "Cultivating wholehearted connection with Self, each other, and the natural world." Website: ifswellness.com Retreat Information: ifswellness.com/ifs-retreats Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/heartofcalderaIFS Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heart_of_caldera_ifs/ ____________________________ Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/ Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact Instagram: @nataliedeering _____________________________ Donate to the podcast Here! Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100! Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information. Thank you for the support! *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*
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    1 hr and 21 mins
  • Who's Awake? Befriending Insomnia with Internal Family Systems -- with Katie LaCelle

    Who's Awake? Befriending Insomnia with Internal Family Systems -- with Katie LaCelle
    Jun 2 2025

    What if your insomnia isn't a problem to fix, but a part of you that needs your attention?

    In this insightful and compassionate conversation, I’m joined by somatic IFS and leadership coach Katie LaCelle to explore the deep connection between sleeplessness and our inner system. Katie shares her personal journey with chronic insomnia and how Internal Family Systems (IFS) offered a radically different way of relating to wakefulness—one that invites curiosity, compassion, and presence.

    Together, we explore how insomnia can be understood through the lens of parts work, what happens when protector parts activate at night, and why asking “Who’s awake?” might be more helpful than trying to fall back asleep. Katie also offers grounded techniques and nervous system tools to support better sleep—not by overriding parts, but by listening to them.

    Whether you struggle with occasional restlessness or chronic insomnia, this episode offers powerful insights into how we can meet our sleepless parts with kindness—and finally begin to rest.

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    We Explore: 🌙 Katie’s personal experience with insomnia and burnout 🧠 The “Just Ask” principle in IFS: Who’s awake? What do you need? 🔦 Why certain protector parts become active at night 🌀 A theory on nightmares and sleep as a consent violation for some parts ⚖️ Common polarizations around sleep (e.g., “I need to sleep” vs. “I need to stay alert”) 🧘 Techniques for grounding before sleep and during the day 🧩 How to be with insomnia parts instead of battling them 🌿 The power of observing and noticing what’s there—without trying to change it

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    About Katie LaCelle: Katie LaCelle is a somatic IFS and leadership coach who helps people reconnect with their body’s wisdom and uncover the internal leaders they already carry within. She specializes in working with high achievers, people pleasers, and caretakers—especially those navigating burnout or struggling with sleep. Katie regularly assists with IFS Institute trainings and is currently pursuing her Somatic Experiencing Practitioner certification. Her work blends deep nervous system support with compassionate parts work to create lasting, embodied change.

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    Learn More & Connect with Katie: 🧘 IFS for Insomnia Course: cressanallc.com/about-insomnia-course 📸 Instagram: @cressanallc 🌐 Website: www.cressanallc.com

    Tune in for a gentle, eye-opening conversation on what it really means to rest—and how befriending our sleepless parts might be the first step.

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    Want to work with Natalie? Contact her below

    Website: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/

    Contact: https://www.ndwellnessservices.com/contact

    Instagram: @nataliedeering

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    Donate to the podcast Here!

    Interested in sponsoring an episode of the podcast? Upgrade your business and let more people know about your amazing services or products by reaching hundreds to thousands of people by sponsoring an episode for only $100! Please email ndwellness.services@therapysecure.com for more information. Thank you for the support!

    *Please support the podcast by following, rating, and leaving a review*
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    1 hr and 2 mins
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