Episodes

  • A Conversation about Christian Nationalism
    Jun 29 2025

    In this episode we talk about the rise of Christian Nationalism as a war on inclusion in America.

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    41 mins
  • White Male Supremacy and the Empire with Rev. Dr. Beverly Dale Part 2
    Jun 15 2025

    In this episode, we continue our conversation about the pattern of White Male Supremacy aka “the Patriarchy” or "the empire" that has impacted Black Indigenous and People of Color, women and LGBTQ+ folks and continues to inform the conversations we are currently having about diversity, equity and inclusion in the United States of America.

    Rev. Bushey and Dr Swilley are joined by the Rev. Dr. Beverly Dale, founder of the Incarnation Institute for Sex and Faith, Rev. Bev is an ordained Christian clergy who has spent most of her thirty years of ministry helping people reconnect their spirits and their bodies, and confronting sex-negativity in the church and culture. Dale was an ecumenical campus minister at the University of Pennsylvania for over two decades. She founded the Incarnation Institute for Sex and Faith in 2014 whose mission is to teach clergy and sexologists an inclusive, science-friendly, sex-positive Christianity. The Institute and Rev Bev have celebrated sexual diversity and have explored the intersectionality of race and sexuality. She is the co-author of Advancing Sexual Health for the Christian Client: Data and Dogma along with Sexologist, Rachel Keller and has a new book released in 2024 entitled Who Told You You were Naked? Meditations on the Sexual Body.

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    50 mins
  • White Male Supremacy and the Empire with Rev. Dr. Beverly Dale Part 1
    Jun 1 2025

    In this episode, we are talking about the pattern of White Male Supremacy aka “the Patriarchy” or "the empire" that has impacted Black Indigenous and People of Color, women and LGBTQ+ folks and continues to inform the conversations we are currently having about diversity, equity and inclusion in the United States of America.

    Rev. Bushey and Dr Swilley are joined by the Rev. Dr. Beverly Dale, founder of the Incarnation Institute for Sex and Faith, Rev. Bev is an ordained Christian clergy who has spent most of her thirty years of ministry helping people reconnect their spirits and their bodies, and confronting sex-negativity in the church and culture. Dale was an ecumenical campus minister at the University of Pennsylvania for over two decades. She founded the Incarnation Institute for Sex and Faith in 2014 whose mission is to teach clergy and sexologists an inclusive, science-friendly, sex-positive Christianity. The Institute and Rev Bev have celebrated sexual diversity and have explored the intersectionality of race and sexuality. She is the co-author of Advancing Sexual Health for the Christian Client: Data and Dogma along with Sexologist, Rachel Keller and has a new book released in 2024 entitled Who Told You You were Naked? Meditations on the Sexual Body.



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    37 mins
  • Culturally Responsive Teaching
    Apr 20 2025

    In this episode, Dr. Swilley and Rev Bushey explore Culturally Responsive Teaching, the other CRT, with some insight from Dr. Swilley's recent dissertation on CRT. As schools navigate the new anti-DEI initiatives in American government, we discuss where and how CRT fits into the goals of our education system today.

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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Exploring the Intersection of Racism and Indigenous Peoples
    Feb 1 2025

    In this episode, Dr. Swilley and Rev. Bushey have a follow up conversation to Episode 7 about the intersections of racism and indigenous peoples. Often forgotten in conversations about race, indigenous persons have been dishonored and oppressed by white supremacy even as the first resisters in America.

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    15 mins
  • Settler Colonialism, Resistance and Peyote Politics with Dr. Lisa Barnett
    Jan 29 2025

    In November 2024, we were joined by the Rev. Dr. Lisa Barnett, Assistant Professor of American Religious History at Phillips Theological Seminary in Tulsa, OK. Our conversation explored the impact of settler colonialism on Native Americans, connecting with the lived experiences of American Indian people today, and how we honor the history of indigenous people and move forward together.

    Our Guest for this episode:
    Dr. Lisa Barnett earned her PhD in U.S. History at Texas Christian University in 2017, a Master of Theology in American Religious History from Brite Divinity School in Fort Worth, Texas in 2012 and her Master of Divinity Degree in 2008. Dr. Barnett is an ordained minister in the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ). She is the author of Peyote Politics: The Making of the Native American Church published by University of Oklahoma Press, 2025.

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    30 mins
  • Saying the Quiet Part Out Loud with Dr Cynthia Taylor
    Feb 14 2023

    In this episode we explore the value of being culturally competent and sensitive at this moment in history. Our guest, Dr. Cynthia Taylor shares her experience working with the Cultural Competency Work Group of a local nonprofit, Project SUN of Kankakee County. Dr Taylor is the Director of Multi-Ethnic Student Services at Olivet Nazarene University in Bourbonnais, Illinois and is a professional mental health provider as well.
    During the episode, Robert and Shannon share in conversation about current dialogue concerning racial equity in our nation. Usually when we hear the phrase, "saying the quiet part out loud," reference is being made to overt racist language spoken by some popular or notable white person. In our episode, we explore the growing culture of white supremacy that is suppressing the language of racial equity in our midst.

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    55 mins
  • A History of Trauma on Black Bodies and White Body Supremacy
    Jan 23 2022

    In this episode we will be exploring the historical patterns of trauma on black bodies and white body supremacy in America. Black bodies have been labeled and treated differently from white bodies by everything from medicine to education, entertainment, civil and criminal law, and law enforcement throughout America’s history. This episode was Inspired in part by two books, Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates and My Grandmother's Hands: Racialized Trauma and the Pathway to Mending Our Hearts and Bodies by Resmaa Menakem.



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    1 hr and 23 mins