Stick to Rugby, brought to you by Defender, is back — and this week we’re joined by legendary Michelin-starred chef Tom Kerridge, alongside Lawrence Dallaglio, Tom Shanklin, Katy Daley-Mclean and Scott Quinnell.

Tom lifts the lid on his incredible journey from the rugby pitch in Gloucester to running one of the UK’s most acclaimed kitchens. He shares how his time in the front row shaped his career, the high-pressure crossover between rugby and fine dining, and what he learned from chefs like Rick Stein and shows like Great British Menu.

The team dive into everything from Shanks’ baking, feeding rugby players vs Williams Racing, and Tom being snubbed on the F1 grid at Silverstone 2025 by Martin Brundle... for Tom Holland.

On the rugby front, there’s pride in coaching his son’s team, shoutouts for rising stars like Henry Pollock, and strong views on the British & Irish Lions and the Owen Farrell vs George Ford debate — with Andy Farrell never far from the conversation.

Tom also opens up about his alcohol recovery, mental health, and the mindset it took to earn multiple Michelin Stars, all while navigating fame, TV and the intensity of hospitality life.

Oh, and there’s Glastonbury chat, Oasis love, and an unexpected pit stop from Scott…

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Stick to Rugby is hitting the road once again, brought to you by Defender, as Lawrence Dallaglio and Tom Shanklin sit down with England’s Mike Brown.

Brown opens up about the mindset that made him one of the Premiership’s fiercest competitors, why Harlequins and England meant everything to him, and how he handled the big fall-out with Eddie Jones.

He reflects on the controversial Premiership Final, the chip on his shoulder that fuelled his career, and the clashes (including a secret punch in the 🍒 from Dallaglio in a ruck) that shaped him on the pitch.

The lads also tackle what rugby needs to fix for the next generation, the pressures of international selection, and whether Brown regrets how it all ended with England.

Brutally honest, fiery and full of stories… this is Mike Brown as you’ve never heard him before!

00:00 On the Road is BACK!

01:27 Reacting to Gallagher Premiership Final Loss

04:35 What Michael Cheika brought to Leicester Tigers

06:08 The Secret to Mike Brown’s Longevity

12:18 How Mike got into Rugby

21:00 Mike’s Relationship with the Media and THAT Interview

23:11 Most Proud Moments in Mike’s Career

26:05 How Mike’s Relationship with Eddie Jones Changed

30:33 Mike’s Bestfriends in Rugby

32:55 Mike’s Toughest Opposition

37:04 Most Underrated Players

38:45 Players who Taught Mike the Most

42:45 Best Moments in Mike’s Career

44:50 Life After Retirement

48:00 Mike’s Call to Arms to Help Rugby

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