In this episode of the 'I Shower After Work' podcast, hosts Jason and John welcome Joe Herkenhoff, a seasoned electrician turned project manager. The conversation spans a range of topics including the complexities of project estimation, the challenges of managing healthcare construction projects, and the crucial importance of work-life balance. Joe also shares his personal experiences, from making the switch from fieldwork to office-based project management, to juggling family life with a demanding career. Tune in for insights on the evolving construction industry, the skills that make a successful project manager, and even some light-hearted banter about golf and family activities. Whether you're in the trades or just curious about the behind-the-scenes of construction management, this episode offers a wealth of information and a few laughs along the way.

00:00 Introduction and Croc Story Tease

00:59 Welcome to the Podcast

01:11 Apprentice Troubles and Work Rants

03:31 Guest Introduction: Joe Chenh

04:52 Joe's Background and Family Life

11:42 Transition to Project Management

14:24 Balancing Work and Family

18:45 Hobbies and Hunting

25:08 Master Electrician Journey

31:44 The Importance of Customer Interaction Skills

33:34 Office Work vs. Field Work Satisfaction

34:11 Challenges in Project Management

35:45 Field and Office Communication

36:58 Sponsor Shoutout and PM Appreciation

37:44 Story Time: Underground Work Challenges

42:10 Balancing Labor and Project Costs

56:38 Navigating Project Scope Changes

01:02:30 Specializing in Healthcare Projects

01:03:55 Dealing with Material Price Volatility

01:10:40 Encouraging Field Experience for PMs

01:14:01 Closing Remarks and Call to Action

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