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Power, Perception, and Payroll: Stacey Harris on Bias, Budget Battles, and the Future of HR Tech

Power, Perception, and Payroll: Stacey Harris on Bias, Budget Battles, and the Future of HR Tech

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 Live from isolved Connect in Charlotte, Ryan Leary and William Tincup sit down with industry analyst and keynote speaker Stacey Harris for a candid conversation that starts with leveling up HR—and doesn’t let up. From who really controls HR tech budgets (hint: not always HR) to why women in HR leadership still need more data to be trusted, this episode breaks down the hidden dynamics shaping the profession. Stacey unpacks why "HR is female-led" is both true and misleading, and how bias, brand perception, and clustering tech stacks intersect with business outcomes. The trio tackle tough topics: why women hold back other women, what trust really looks like in the C-suite, and the silent shift of HR tech decisions back to IT and finance. If you think compliance is boring, or gender equity is a solved problem, this one will force a second look. Timestamps: 00:00 — Live in Charlotte: pre-show chaos, banter, and keynote aftermath 01:00 — Leveling up HR: bias, perception, and why it still holds the function back 03:01 — Budget control shifts: from HR to IT, and the strategic consequences 04:43 — Branding HR tech to the C-Suite: who needs to know your name 06:00 — The Frankenstein effect: point solutions, data silos, and creeping IT takeover 08:04 — The “clustering model” explained: 3-4 anchors + best-of-suite agility 09:05 — Who should own vendor relationships? HR vs IT and business outcomes 10:00 — Why native integrations beat shallow “whizzy-wig” solutions 10:33 — The gender gap at the top: 70% female in HR, but not in leadership 13:00 — Why time tracking is a leadership issue, not just a process 14:50 — AI, wearables, and HR's frontline role in privacy and compliance 17:10 — The new compliance reality: constant change, no time to catch up 18:33 — Selling HR strategy: know your execs, brand, and organizational dynamics 21:25 — Women holding women back: the zero-sum trap in executive rooms 24:30 — Bias vs preference: how unconscious filters shape hiring and promotion 27:00 — Why women in HR bring more data—and why it’s expected of them 30:00 — Transformational leadership traits: how gender impacts process priorities 32:11 — Metric visibility gaps for female HR leaders 33:30 — Trust, retention, and why staying power matters more than ever This episode was recorded live at isolved Connect on the UNC Charlotte campus. The Heroes of HR podcast is a limited series sponsored by isolved. isolved is an HCM platform that modernizes HR, benefits, and payroll across Healthcare, Hospitality, Manufacturing, and more. Learn more about isolved: https://www.isolvedhcm.com/ Connect with Us: William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/ Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/ Connect with us on social: Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/ Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/ Powered by the WRKdefined Podcast Network.
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