Potential Leader Lab

By: Perry Maughmer
  • Summary

  • Let me start by telling you that I don't have THE answers. So why listen to my podcast? Because I focus on asking the right questions, like: What if you stop focusing on what you are doing as a leader and shift to who you're being as a leader? Did you feel that uncomfortable twinge, deep down inside when you read that? That means we're making progress. It’s also the start of the journey toward realizing your potential as the leader you were meant to be. This pursuit of true leadership doesn't begin inside the next big business bestseller or with a high-powered leadership consultant. It starts with you, and your potential. Unlocking your potential as a leader requires a change in your beliefs about who you are and what you can accomplish. That starts within the Potential Leader Lab with our Explore. Experiment. Evolve. framework. Together, we'll seek out new eclectic and provocative insights to form new hypotheses about leadership. Then, we'll take these ideas into the world so you can see what works and what doesn’t. Then, and only then, can you begin your evolution into the leader you were meant to be. That's where the real transformation begins. Your potential —and your responsibility—as a leader—is ever-increasing and never-ending. This podcast is dedicated and committed to that pursuit. Welcome to the Lab.
    Copyright 2025 Perry Maughmer
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Episodes
  • Chains You Don't See
    Apr 16 2025
    "Challenging Self-Limiting Beliefs": "Who told me this is the way things have to be? Just ask yourself that. Something you believe that you've accepted as true, just ask yourself, who told me this?" - Perry Maughmer

    Are you feeling trapped by the invisible chains of routine and expectation? I explore how the most effective prisons have no bars. In this episode, I challenge you to question your "normal" and push boundaries for personal growth.

    Discover how comfort can be a constraint and why strategic retreats, like vacations, are crucial for renewal.

    Remember, your reality is negotiable, and your chains won't break themselves. It's time to take one small step to prove you're not on autopilot. Embrace the discomfort and start creating a better version of yourself today.

    Potential Leader takeaways

    1. Invisible Prisons: I explain that the most effective prisons are built not with bars but with routine, expectations, and unconscious compliance. These elements often lull us into mistaking structure for reality, leading to self-imposed constraints that are hard to recognize.
    2. Perception of Normal: The idea that our perception of normal is just a collection of learned behaviors, reinforced over time, suggests that we've built our own prisons. I challenge you to consider when you last did something unexpected or outside your life script.
    3. Discomfort Spectrum: The conversation touches on the spectrum of comfort and discomfort, encouraging us to move fluidly between the two. Discomfort can be a strategic tool for growth, and I illustrate this with my personal evolution regarding vacations as strategic retreats.
    4. Breaking Chains Through Experimentation: I emphasize the importance of experimentation in discovering and breaking these invisible chains. Whether it's challenging a core belief, taking a day off, or deleting social media, these disruptions help highlight self-imposed constraints.
    5. Action Over Inaction: Reflecting on the insights of philosophers like Jean-Paul Sartre and Albert Camus, I advocate taking responsibility for your choices and the necessity of action to bring about change, rather than waiting for a crisis to force our evolution.

    What is something you've accepted as just the way things are? This might reveal an invisible chain you've been unwilling to see.

    Potential Leader moments

    00:00 Are You Truly Free?

    03:09 Embracing Life's Spectrum Balance

    08:37 Self-Imposed Behavioral Barriers

    10:08 "Radical Freedom and Excuses"

    14:09 "Crisis: Catalyst for Change"

    16:38 Questioning Beliefs for Growth

    21:11 Action: Antidote to Despair

    25:56 Embracing Discomfort in Personal Growth

    27:04 "Message for the Relentless"

    Perry Maughmer believes the world deserves better leadership; that in every human interaction there is the opportunity to either build others up or tear them down; and that leadership is the choice we make in those moments.

    These beliefs led Perry to create the Potential Leader Lab. He wanted to offer those who share his beliefs the space and safety to explore transformative ideas, experiment with new behaviors, and evolve into the leaders they were meant to be and that the world needs.

    This is a framework he has used again and again with his Vistage peer advisory groups and companies like Turn-Key Tunneling, Convergint, Haughn & Associates, I Am Boundless, Ketchum & Walton, LSP Technologies, and Ahlum & Arbor.

    Perry lives and works on the shores of Buckeye Lake in Ohio, in the mountains of northwest Georgia, and on the beach in Anna Maria, Florida with his amazingly creative wife Lisa. They...

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    28 mins
  • Mark Panciera on Why Mindset Matters for Leaders 🎙️ (Ep.68)
    Apr 9 2025

    In episode 68 of the Potential Leader Lab Podcast, I'm excited to welcome Mark Panciera, CEO Emeritus of The Pacific Institute.

    Mark brings over 35 years of experience inspiring leaders, teams, and organizations to achieve extraordinary results. A TED Talk presenter with over 1.5 million views and a Vistage Top Performer Speaker, Mark has worked with Fortune 500 companies, government agencies, healthcare systems, athletic teams, and nonprofits to drive human performance through the power of belief. Featured in Forbes, The New York Times, USA Today, Inc Magazine, and on ABC’s Wall Street Journal Report, he brings a unique blend of business acumen and mindset science to every stage.

    🤔 Our Discussion 🤔

    Mark and I explore the science behind beliefs, drawing on emerging researchthat supports the power of mindset. From synaptic firings to neuroplasticityand epigenetics, there's substantial evidence that we can reshape our beliefsat a cellular level. This discussion intersects with insights from influentialfigures in psychology and leadership, such as Angela Duckworth and CarolDweck, reinforcing the profound connection between belief and achievement.

    ★ Key Topics ★

    03:30 Discovering Blind Spots, Transforming Life

    07:21 Facing Fear and Embracing Change

    10:20 Science Validates Power of Belief

    14:38 Belief's Power: A Scientific View

    17:35 Beliefs and Behaviors Metaphor

    20:56 Embrace Lifelong Personal Growth

    26:12 "Rising Through Anxious Transitions"

    29:24 Judgment vs. Curiosity: Humility's Role

    33:15 Cultivating a Positive Growth Mindset

    35:37 Efficacious Leadership Impact

    38:21 Self-Actualization for Others' Benefit

    44:01 "Discover Inner Strength Within"

    44:50 "Belief Transformation: Start with Small Steps"

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    Perry Maughmer believes the world deserves better leadership; that in every human interaction there is the opportunity to either build others up or tear them down; and that leadership is the choice we make in those moments.

    These beliefs led Perry to create the Potential Leader Lab. He wanted to offer those who share his beliefs the space and safety to explore transformative ideas, experiment with new behaviors, and evolve into the leaders they were...

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    47 mins
  • Embrace The Absurd: The Relentless Leaders Beginning 🎙️ (Ep.67)
    Apr 2 2025

    In episode 67 of the Potential Leader Lab Podcast, I'm excited to tackle the idea of embracing the absurd, inspired by Albert Camus. Camus’ concept of the absurd explores the conflict between our inherent desire for meaning and the human struggle to find it.

    This is a theme that resonates deeply with leadership, where the best leaders thrive amidst uncertainty and chaos. We're going to dig deep into the concept of absurdity as a foundation for self-authorship and leadership.

    By exploring Albert Camus' philosophy that life has no inherent meaning, I'll discuss how we, as leaders, can create our own path, embrace uncertainty, and foster impactful leadership. We'll touch on the construct of faith and religion, and why great leaders are those who embrace uncertainty and are willing to take action without predefined plans.

    We'll review the concept of being "antifragile" and why understanding that discomfort signifies growth is absolutely critical to the development of any relentless leader.

    Don't wait for the perfect moment. Instead, take a step towards something that scares you and start building your own meaning. Embrace the absurd as the beginning of your journey.

    Leadership Coaching Takeaways

    1. Understanding Absurdity: Discover Albert Camus' perspective on the absurd as the disparity between our quest for meaning and the universe's indifference.
    2. Creating Your Own Meaning: Learn why it's powerful to craft your own meaning rather than searching outside yourself.
    3. Leadership and Uncertainty: Find out how great leaders embrace uncertainty and create impact without a script.
    4. The Role of Action: Understand the importance of taking action to create motivation and meaning.
    5. Practicing Antifragility: Get tips on benefitting from chaos and becoming resilient in unpredictable situations.

    Potential Leader Moments

    00:00:40 Explanation of Camus’ perspective on the absurd

    00:01:16 Discussion on balancing faith with the concept of the absurd.

    00:02:15 Analogy of understanding a deity’s plan

    00:02:56 How we create our own meaning in life

    00:03:32 Advice on abandoning the search for inherent life meaning.

    00:04:06 Our desire for order and the universe's indifference.

    00:04:40 Importance of personal agency and self-authorship

    00:05:27 Connection of the absurd to leadership and embracing uncertainty.

    00:06:43 Dismissal of the idea of universal truths in leadership practices.

    00:07:04 The necessity to take action for motivation and growth.

    00:08:27 Characteristics of relentless leaders

    00:08:57 Emphasis on playing the infinite game for continuous growth.

    00:09:23 Concept of being "antifragile" and benefiting from chaos.

    00:09:41 Why we should challenge external validation.

    00:11:00 Advocacy for exploration and curiosity as a path to transformation.

    00:11:28 Encouragement to act without a guarantee

    00:11:51 Understanding the non-linear path of personal growth.

    00:12:12 Reassurance that discomfort signals proper engagement in growth.

    00:12:43 Leaders create answers through actions, not prescriptive teachings.

    00:13:09 Camus’ philosophy on life’s meaning and our role in creating it.

    00:14:03 Personal anecdote about unpreparedness in parenthood.

    00:16:10 Relentless individuals embrace the absurd and create meaning.

    00:16:32 Final encouragement to take bold actions

    00:16:53 Reflection on Camus' quote about absurdity as a beginning.

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