Show Outline:

Podcast Reflections & Growth

Tom’s journey from uncertainty to confidence in hosting.

Lessons from awkward interviews and maintaining consistency.

Peter Rollins & Parables

Kevin’s college story using Rollins’ parable of the mystic, evangelical, and fundamentalist.

The role of mysticism in challenging dogma.

Kevin’s New Book: Cosmic Christ and Concrete Jesus

Origins: Re-examining faith post-church closure and vocational shifts.

Defining the “Cosmic Christ” (universal divine presence) vs. “Concrete Jesus” (liberation-focused activism).

Bridging mysticism and social justice.

Deconstruction & Embodiment

Faith as direct experience vs. intellectual belief.

The danger of “spiritual insulation” and clichés.

Black Prophetic Tradition

Contrasting the “white Jesus” of power with the radical, marginalized Jesus.

Liberation theology’s influence on Kevin’s work.

Personal & Vocational Shifts

Kevin’s transition from pastoring to hospice chaplaincy.

Letting go of “next things” to embrace the present.

Links:

Web: https://www.kevinsweeneynow.com/

Pod: The Church Needs Therapy

Book: Cosmic Christ Concrete Jesus

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takeaways

• Howard Thurman is a significant figure for understanding hope in difficult times.
• The current political climate creates a crisis of hope for many.
• Progressive Christianity can serve as a counterforce to conservative ideologies.
• Empathy is essential for ethical behavior and morality.
• There is a divide in Christianity that reflects differing beliefs about God.
• Fear and grievance play a significant role in conservative Christianity.
• The importance of social justice and activism in faith communities.
• Mysticism can be a pathway to understanding our spiritual lives.
• The need for a strong, theologically grounded progressive movement is urgent.
• Bad behavior often reflects a misunderstanding of God's nature. Empathy is essential in understanding differing perspectives.
• Progressive Christianity aims to bring health to society and the planet.
• Christianity must evolve to meet contemporary challenges.
• Experience should take precedence over rigid doctrines.
• Faith should be dynamic and culturally relevant.
• God's presence is universal and not confined to one place.
• Politics should not define faith, but faith should inform politics.
• Moral accountability is crucial in political engagement.
• Hope can be found in small, everyday actions.
• Self-care and community support are forms of resistance.

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takeaways

• Dillon discusses the cultural diversity in Lancaster County, highlighting the coexistence of Amish and Christian nationalists.
• He emphasizes the importance of love and neighborly kindness in his theological approach.
• Dillon's writing project critiques Christian nationalism through the lens of Jesus and Paul's teachings.
• He expresses a desire to understand biblical figures and their teachings more deeply.
• The conversation touches on the significance of orthopraxy over orthodoxy in modern faith practices.
• Dillon shares his personal journey through fundamentalism and the impact of early religious experiences.
• He reflects on the challenges of reconciling faith with modern scientific understanding.
• The role of permaculture is discussed as a metaphor for spiritual growth and interconnectedness.
• Dillon's experiences in seminary led to a deeper exploration of theology and spirituality.
• The conversation concludes with a focus on finding community and meaning in a changing world. Navigating post-fundamentalism involves reconciling faith with personal beliefs.
• Experiences of spirituality can transcend traditional dogma.
• Spiritual nourishment is essential in today's politically charged environment.
• Christian nationalism poses a significant challenge to authentic faith.
• The golden rule is a universal principle found across various belief systems.
• Personal experiences of grace can reshape one's understanding of faith.
• Community support is vital for those struggling with mental health issues.
• Hope exists in the form of individuals reevaluating their beliefs.
• Compassion towards others, even enemies, is a difficult but necessary pursuit.
• The need for a global perspective on love and humanity is more pressing than ever.

Links:

Podcast: https://godsquadpodcast.com/

Blog: https://tattooed-theologian.com/about/

Book: [click here]

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Christian Nationalism Defined: A political ideology merging American and Christian identities, often excluding non-Christians and enforcing conservative, white supremacist norms.

Historical Roots: Christian nationalism is intertwined with the doctrine of discovery, slavery, and segregation, using faith to justify oppression.

Power Over Principles: The alignment of some Christian groups with political power (e.g., Trump-era policies) often sacrifices theological integrity for influence.

Violence and Symbolism: Events like the Tree of Life Synagogue shooting and January 6th Capitol attack exemplify Christian nationalism’s violent consequences.

Hope in Community: Grassroots conversations, honest history, and interfaith solidarity are vital to resisting Christian nationalism and fostering healing.

Amanda’s Faith & Political Roots (00:00–15:00)

Growing up in a Baptist family in Texas.

Early passion for politics, career in law, and work with Rep. Lloyd Doggett.

Faith, Power, and Disillusionment (15:01–30:00)

Tension between Christian values and political power.

Critique of the Moral Majority’s shift from justice to power-seeking.

Defining Christian Nationalism (30:01–45:00)

Links to white supremacy, colonialism, and the myth of America as a “Christian nation.”

January 6th as a modern example of Christian nationalist violence.

Historical Trauma and White Supremacy (45:01–60:00)

The doctrine of discovery, slavery, and systemic racism as foundational to Christian nationalism.

Challenges in discussing race and privilege without triggering defensiveness.

Hope and Resistance (60:01–End)

The role of literature (James by Percival Everett) and community dialogue in healing.

Amanda’s optimism in grassroots movements and truth-telling.

Organizations:

Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty (BJC)

Christians Against Christian Nationalism

End Christian Nationalism Campaign

Amanda’s Book: How to End Christian Nationalism (available on the above sites)

Mentioned Literature: James by Percival Everett (retelling of Huckleberry Finn)

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🔑 Key Topics Covered:

• From Charismatic to Anglican: Preston’s journey from a Tulsa megachurch upbringing to embracing sacramental, liturgical traditions.
• Why Easter Matters for 50 Days: Rediscovering resurrection as a way of life—not just a doctrine—and its implications for justice, forgiveness, and hope.
• Liturgical Living: How ancient rhythms (like Lent, Eastertide, and Ordinary Time) reshape faith beyond entertainment-driven worship.
• Deconstruction & Doubt: Navigating faith shifts, cognitive dissonance, and why doubt is a natural companion to trust.
• Resisting Christian Nationalism: Re-centering Christian identity on Jesus’ self-giving love over political power.
• Practical Faith: Why Resurrection People (Preston’s new book) invites us to feast, celebrate, and embody resurrection daily.

📚 Featured Work:

• Preston’s upcoming book: Resurrection People: A Journey from Easter to Pentecost (releasing March 2024).
• Weekly lectionary resources at The Art of Preaching Substack.

👉 Why Watch?
Whether you’re deconstructing faith, curious about liturgical practices, or weary of politicized Christianity, this episode offers hope for a faith rooted in Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection.

🔔 Subscribe to Liminal Living for more conversations on faith, doubt, and spiritual transformation. Like, comment, and share to join the dialogue!

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🔑 Key Topics Covered:

• Why Supernaturalism Fails: Unpacking the medieval roots of supernaturalism and its incompatibility with modern questions of suffering (theodicy) and free will.
• Process Theology 101: Discover how thinkers like Alfred North Whitehead, David Ray Griffin, and Thomas J. Ord redefine God as a relational, persuasive force within—not above—the natural world.
• Panentheism vs. Supernaturalism: How God is the “soul of the universe,” intimately woven into creation’s fabric.
• Metamodern Spirituality: Bridging science and faith through experiential, interconnected frameworks.
• Practical Implications: How process theology enriches prayer, worship, and ethical living in a post-supernatural age.

📚 Mentioned Works & Thinkers:

• David Ray Griffin’s Naturalism PPP
• Friedrich Schleiermacher’s God-consciousness
• Chad Ball’s devotional Mornings with Schleiermacher

👉 Why Watch?

Whether you’re deconstructing faith, exploring progressive theology, or seeking a God compatible with science and human freedom, this episode offers fresh insights for skeptics and believers alike.

🔔 Subscribe to Liminal Living for more deep dives into theology, philosophy, and liminal spirituality. Like, comment, and share to join the conversation!

Links:

Chab Bahl's Author Page: [Amazon]

Chad Bahl's other Author Page: [Deconstructing Hell]

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takeaways

• Grounding in spiritual practices is essential during chaotic times.
• Community support can provide strength and resilience.
• Limiting social media exposure can help maintain mental health.
• Deconstruction can be a transformative process, akin to a caterpillar becoming a butterfly.
• Creativity can serve as a pathway to hope and healing.
• Intentionality in actions can turn everyday activities into spiritual practices.
• Listening to marginalized voices is crucial for rebuilding faith and community.
• Open conversations about political differences can foster understanding.
• Betrayal can stem from political choices that affect loved ones.
• Hope is vital for navigating through difficult times. Empathy can be challenging when political views clash.
• Cocooning is a valid way to protect oneself from harm.
• Storytelling humanizes experiences and fosters connection.
• Finding voices that inspire hope is crucial in difficult times.
• Creating safe spaces in community is essential for open dialogue.
• Speaking up for justice is a responsibility we all share.
• Lowering expectations during grief can be empowering.
• Hope is vital for resilience in tough situations.
• Maintaining kindness is a personal goal worth striving for.
• Rituals can ground us in times of distress.

Links

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