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Leadership is about the granular not the hype

Leadership is about the granular not the hype

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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk about how leadership is all about the granular, and not the hype. We chat through where our model for what great leadership comes from, and what it looks like in practice, and together we reflect on some of the trappings that those who find themselves carrying the responsibility of leadership might get caught up in things like power, privilege and the temptation of perks.


The reality of a Christ-centred approach to leadership is quite different. A revolution, in fact, a revolution that we believe the world really needs.



Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).


This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

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