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Keep Optimising

Keep Optimising

By: Chloe Thomas
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For 5 episodes at a time we focus in on one marketing method - maybe Email or SEO or Google Ads or Facebook Ads. In our weekly episodes, we go deep into a different area of the marketing method we’re focused on, with a guest selected because they are an expert in their field AND because they have a specific tactic or approach you NEED to know about. That means for the whole 5 episodes you’re getting ideas about ONE THING, and you can focus your optimisation time along with us on that one marketing method. - Current Mini-Series = SEO - Next Mini-Series = Marketplaces, including Amazon - Last Mini-Series = Google Ads Previous topics you can listen to right now: SEO, Email marketing, Black Friday, Facebook Ads, Marketing Foundations, Content Marketing, Organic Social Media, Google Ads, TikTok, & Improving Conversion Rates You can hear a new episode for free every Wednesday. Each episode lasts about 30-45 minutes and is audio only. AND at the end of each month we also have a Live Q&A webinar where you get to ask your questions of our guests. >> Sign up for the next one here: https://keepoptimising.com/webinar/ I look forward to helping you keep optimising your marketing very soon! Chloe Thomas, host of the show About our host: Chloe Thomas has been in marketing for over 15 years, she's the author of multiple best selling books on eCommerce and marketing, and the host of the award-winning UK top 5 marketing podcast, eCommerce MasterPlan. Join our email list: https://keepoptimising.com/Copyright 2025 Chloe Thomas Economics Leadership Management & Leadership Marketing Marketing & Sales
Episodes
  • SEO: ChatGPT + Shopify... How can you capitalise on AI Shopping? with Sam Wright, Blink
    Jul 9 2025

    Understanding the rapidly evolving landscape of SEO is more crucial than ever, especially with the introduction of ChatGPT's shopping functionality. In this episode, we explore how the integration of the buy button in ChatGPT creates a new product discovery channel, fundamentally changing how brands will need to approach their data and optimization strategies. Our guest, SEO expert Sam Wright, emphasizes that the structure of your product data will dictate your success in this decentralized marketplace. Whether you're on Shopify or another platform, the strategies we discuss will help you prepare for this shift and boost your eCommerce performance.

    The episode unpacks the pivotal role that product data plays in the eCommerce landscape. Sam emphasizes the importance of organizing product attributes to enhance visibility and discoverability across various platforms, especially with the emergence of AI shopping functionalities like those introduced by ChatGPT and Shopify. Optimizing product data for AI systems not only improves SEO but also enhances user experience on eCommerce sites. This is why brands should prioritize their data structure to harness the full potential of emerging technologies.

    The dialogue shifts to the transformative impact of ChatGPT's integration with Shopify, which introduces a new product discovery channel that brands cannot afford to ignore. Sam articulates that this is not just about SEO; it's about evolving the way brands think about their online presence. Clear taxonomy, accurate schema markup, and well-structured content are not just SEO best practices; they are vital for ensuring that AI systems can effectively interpret and relay product information.

    Wrapping up, the episode highlights actionable strategies for brands to adapt to the new eCommerce reality shaped by AI. Sam provides practical steps, such as focusing on product data management and ensuring that content is both human-readable and machine-friendly. This episode not only prepares brands for the immediate challenges posed by AI in eCommerce but also reinforces the foundational practices of SEO that will continue to drive success.

    Takeaways:

    • Understanding your product data is key; think like a data engineer for success.
    • Successful brands will prioritize structured data to enhance their visibility and performance.
    • The buy button in ChatGPT creates a new product discovery channel that can revolutionize eCommerce.
    • Optimizing for ChatGPT involves using clear product data and maintaining good SEO practices.
    • Regularly review and update all content to ensure consistency across your site for AI utilization.
    • The future of SEO leans heavily on product data management, blending marketing and technical strategies.

    Find the notes here: https://keepopt.com/264

    Download our ebook >> https://keepopt.com/ebook "500 Top Tips to Make Your eCommerce Business More Profitable"

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    29 mins
  • Google Ads: The Ultimate Guide to Six-Figure Campaigns with Issy Johnson, Stellar Search
    Jul 2 2025

    Managing a six-figure budget for Google Ads can be a game changer for your marketing strategy. In this episode with Google Ads expert Issy Johnson, we dive into effective strategies for maximizing your investment, focusing on the importance of creative, campaign diversity, and a test-and-learn mindset. We also discuss how to properly manage scaling budgets. Whether you're currently navigating a hefty budget or just curious about what it entails, we’ll share valuable insights that can help you optimise your Google Ads performance.

    One of the standout themes in our conversation is the need for a more granular approach when scaling budgets. Instead of merely increasing existing campaigns, it's important to explore new campaign types and strategies, like Performance Max, which allows advertisers to diversify their approach and maximize their return on investment. Issy emphasizes that as budgets grow, so does the complexity of managing those campaigns, demanding a constant test-and-learn mindset to ensure that every dollar is effectively spent.

    Another key aspect we discuss is the importance of creative in Google Ads. With larger budgets, the need for diverse and compelling ad creatives becomes even more pronounced. Issy explains how creative testing and optimization should be a continuous process, leveraging AI tools to generate new ideas and keep the content fresh.

    We also touch on the significance of proper attribution and conversion tracking, especially when substantial funds are involved. Issy advocates for a robust understanding of how different marketing channels interact, suggesting that marketers look beyond Google Ads for comprehensive performance insights. This episode is packed with actionable insights, making it a must-listen for anyone looking to optimize their Google Ads strategy, particularly when working with six-figure budgets.

    Takeaways:

    • When managing six-figure Google Ads budgets, having a diverse range of campaigns is vital for success.
    • It's essential to continuously test and reflect on ad performance every two weeks to optimize strategies effectively.
    • Attribution becomes increasingly important with larger budgets; consider using Marketing Mix Modeling for comprehensive insights.
    • Scaling budgets requires a strategic approach; simply increasing spend without a plan often leads to poor campaign performance.

    Find the notes here: https://keepopt.com/263

    Download our ebook >> https://keepopt.com/ebook "500 Top Tips to Make Your eCommerce Business More Profitable"

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    Get all the links and resources we mention & join our email list at https://keepopt.com

    Love the show? Chloe would love your feedback - leave a review here: https://keepopt.com/review or reply to the episode Q&A on Spotify.

    Interested in being a Sponsor? go here: https://keepopt.com/sponsor

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    30 mins
  • Google Ads: Advanced Tips for Precision Conversion Tracking and Optimisation with Michael Cole, Everflow
    Jun 25 2025

    Precision tracking and reporting in Google Ads is key to effectively optimising your campaigns and driving meaningful sales. In today’s episode, we dive into how understanding different buyer personas can significantly enhance your advertising strategy. We break down the importance of providing accurate attribution data to the Google Ads platform, which allows it to optimise for high-value customers rather than just any lead. Our guest, Michael Cole, shares insights from his experience at Everflow, where they successfully implemented these strategies to see a remarkable increase in quality leads.

    Precision tracking and reporting in Google Ads is crucial for driving sales and maximizing ROI. Michael emphasizes that merely relying on Google’s native tracking can lead marketers astray, as the platform often attributes conversions based on a variety of factors that may not reflect the actual effectiveness of an ad. He suggests that using a third-party tool allows marketers to capture more accurate attribution data, enabling them to focus on high-value customers and optimise their ads accordingly. By sharing specific buyer behaviors and conversion metrics back to Google, advertisers can steer the algorithm towards what truly matters: identifying and targeting users who are likely to return for repeat purchases, thereby nurturing long-term customer relationships.

    We also explore the differing types of buyers and how understanding their behaviors can inform ad strategies. Michael shares insights from his own experience, showing how their approach led to a significant increase in quality leads, even in the competitive landscape of SaaS marketing. He outlines the need for businesses to adapt their tracking methods to capture not just immediate purchases but also long-term customer engagement, which can drastically change the effectiveness of ad campaigns.

    As we wrap up, Michael provides valuable insider tips on maximising Google Ads performance, encouraging listeners to prioritize understanding their customer data and refining their attribution models. Ultimately, the episode serves as a guide for marketers looking to refine their Google Ads strategies by focusing on precision tracking and effective reporting, ensuring that they can make informed decisions that lead to sustained growth and profitability.

    Takeaways:

    • Understanding different buyer types is crucial for effective Google Ads marketing strategies.
    • Utilizing third-party tools can significantly enhance the precision of your Google Ads tracking.
    • It's essential to provide accurate conversion data back to Google Ads for optimal ad performance.
    • Ad platforms often have different incentives than advertisers, making independent data crucial for success.
    • Treat your customers differently based on their buying behavior to foster long-term relationships.
    • Optimising Google Ads is a continuous process that requires regular adjustments and data analysis.

    Episode sponsored by Everflow. To find out how Everflow can help your brand, visit everflow.io .

    Find the notes here: https://keepopt.com/262

    Download our ebook >> https://keepopt.com/ebook "500 Top Tips to Make Your eCommerce Business More Profitable"

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    Get all the links and resources we mention & join our email list at https://keepopt.com

    Love the show? Chloe would love your feedback - leave a review here: https://keepopt.com/review or reply to the episode Q&A on Spotify.

    Interested in being a Sponsor? go here:

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    39 mins
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