Here's the Deal | Leadership, Culture, and the Future of Work

By: Shujaat Ahmad and Joselle Deocampo-Gautam
  • Summary

  • Welcome to Here's the Deal, your go-to podcast to make sense of the toughest challenges in leadership, culture, and the future of work. Every month, join hosts Shujaat Ahmad and Joselle Deocampo-Gautam who bring a wealth of experience at the intersection of culture, business, and technology. Gain actionable strategies to shape a purposeful career and life. Whether you're an executive or an aspiring leader, Here's the Deal empowers you to reach your highest potential. Tune in for transformative discussions on leadership, purpose, and success.
    Shujaat Ahmad and Joselle Deocampo-Gautam
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Episodes
  • The Illusion of Performance Management
    Feb 27 2025

    In this episode, Joselle and Shujaat delve into the complexities of performance management, exploring the illusions that often cloud the process. Drawing parallels with the movie 'The Prestige', they discuss how performance reviews can create a façade of fairness while masking deeper issues. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the hidden dynamics of calibration meetings, the significance of transparency and trust, and strategies for both employees and leaders to navigate the performance management landscape effectively.

    Key Takeaways:

    • Performance management often feels like a political game.
    • Calibration meetings can obscure the true evaluation process.
    • The illusion of fairness can lead to distrust among employees.
    • Understanding the 'pledge, turn, and prestige' framework is crucial.
    • Transparency in performance management processes is essential.
    • Employees should actively engage in understanding the evaluation criteria.
    • Building a network of support can enhance performance evaluations.
    • Trust between managers and employees is foundational for effective performance management.
    • Economic factors can significantly impact performance ratings and bonuses.
    • Leaders must foster a culture of trust and transparency in their teams.


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Performance Management Illusions

    02:54 The Prestige: Analogy for Performance Management

    06:03 The Illusion of Fairness in Calibration Meetings

    08:31 Understanding the Game: Pledge, Turn, and Prestige

    11:43 The Players in the Calibration Game

    14:13 Strategies for Navigating Performance Management

    16:44 Transparency and Trust in Performance Ratings

    19:37 The Distinction Between Performance and Compensation

    28:06 Exploring the Spectrum of Performance Management

    30:56 The Importance of Transparency in Evaluations

    33:40 Navigating the Politics of Performance Management

    36:54 Strategies for Success in Performance Evaluations

    40:41 Redesigning the Calibration Process

    49:57 Building Trust and Transparency in Leadership


    Keywords

    performance management, leadership, employee engagement, calibration meetings, trust, transparency, organizational culture, workplace politics, talent management, business outcomes


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    56 mins
  • The Anatomy of Layoffs
    Jan 29 2025

    Summary

    In this episode, Joselle and Shujaat delve into the complex topic of layoffs, breaking down the deal on the anatomy of layoffs. They walk through the financial number, the game, and the systems that drive layoffs. They discuss the emotional toll on employees, and the critical role of leadership and communication. They discuss the importance of transparency, the need for individuals to prepare for potential layoffs, and the broader implications for workplace culture and the future of work.

    Takeaways

    Layoffs are often a result of long-term market shifts. Understanding the financial metrics behind layoffs is crucial. Leaders must communicate transparently during layoffs. Survivor guilt can affect those who remain after layoffs. Individuals should always have a financial buffer. Networking is essential for job security. Layoffs reflect a company's values and priorities. Emotional support is vital for those impacted by layoffs. Preparation is key for individuals in uncertain job markets. The future of work will continue to evolve, impacting job security.


    Chapters

    00:00 Intro: Understanding the Landscape of Layoffs

    02:43 The Anatomy of Layoffs

    05:28 Layoffs Context: The Secret Number That Rules Them All

    09:12 Why Companies Get Layoffs Wrong

    10:51 The Freakonomics at Play: Executive Compensation

    12:54 Part 2: The Inhuman Game of BS Justifications

    15:12 The Emotional Toll on the Entire Organization

    18:16 Survivor Guilt

    19:25 Part3: The People Systems Not Built to Run Layoffs

    22:07 Understanding Company Signals and Preparing for Change

    30:06 Empowering Individuals: Control in Uncertain Times

    32:04 Leadership During Layoffs: Transparency and Vulnerability

    37:27 The Human Element in Corporate Decisions


    Keywords

    layoffs, leadership, workplace culture, emotional impact, communication, future of work, job security, employee engagement, corporate strategy, workforce management

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    39 mins
  • Navigating Career Transitions | A Playbook
    Nov 21 2024

    In this episode, Shujaat and Joselle explore the complexities of career transitions, sharing personal stories and insights on navigating change. They discuss the importance of understanding the difference between change and transition, the non-linear nature of career paths, and the significance of listening to one's inner voice. The conversation offers a 5 step playbook for managing transitions effectively, along with personal stories on putting it to practice.


    Key Takeaways

    • Career transitions are a common, ongoing process.
    • Listening to inner signals is crucial for meaningful transitions.
    • Embracing discomfort can lead to personal growth.
    • Change is often unexpected; preparation is key.
    • Step 1: Take stock of your identity.
    • Step 2: Assess your financial runway.
    • Step 3: Experiment in your current role so you can job craft and life craft for future
    • Step 4: Become an Olympic learner
    • Step 5: Be known for something
    • Expect change as a constant in life.
    • Play your game, not others!


    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Career Transitions

    00:19 Intro

    01:58 The State of Career Transitions. Why It's Important

    05:00 Personal Stories of Transition

    08:53 The Non Linear Journey of Transitions

    11:01 Being Comfortable with Discomfort for Growth

    12:16 The Disconnect of the Heart and Mind.

    14:34 S-Curve of Navigating Personal Changes

    16:18 Most Surprising in Career Transitions

    17:01 Surprise 1: Funding your Ikigai with F You Money

    19:23 Surprise 2: Understanding Change vs. Transition

    21:06 Embracing "Being Lost" Crucial Phase of Transitions

    25:11 The Role of Taking Comfort in Discomfort for Growth

    26:33 Leadership Change is a Norm; Most are Surprised.

    30:38 The Playbook for Transitions

    32:37 Step1: Defining Your Present and Future Identity

    38:33 Step 2: Planning Your Financial Runway

    39:38 Step 3: Job and Life Crafting with Experimentation

    42:26 Step 4: Become an Olympic Learner

    43:15 Step 5: Be Known for Something

    46:07 Putting In Practice: You Are A Product of Multiple Transitions

    53:49 Play Your Game, Not Others!

    55:31 Recap and Final Thoughts


    Keywords

    career transitions, leadership, personal growth, change management, professional development, identity, financial wellbeing, job crafting, Olympic learning, meaningful life

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    1 hr
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