Dear Humans,

Is it possible to find political common ground with your brother-in-law who loves Joe Rogan? That’s what we’re discussing today with author and former Obama speechwriter David Litt!

David recently wrote a new book about finding common ground with the brother-in-law in question. It’s called It's Only Drowning: A True Story of Learning to Surf and the Search for Common Ground and is out now!

We Discuss:

• The recently passed immigration bill and the implications of expanding ICE powers.

• Will there even be elections in 2026?

• Whether “being hopeful” is dangerously naive or necessary.

• Authenticity, populism, and George Carlin’s legacy in the age of Trump.

• Finding common ground, respecting differences, and surviving America’s “waves.”

• Ice cream!

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And coming up on God Pod Live - Lots more fun!:

• Monday, July 7 at 2 PM ET: God and Jesus recover from Independence Day!

• Tuesday, July 8 at 2 PM ET: Author Faiz Siddiqui!

• Wednesday, July 9 at 2 PM ET: Actor and Comedian Jeff Hiller!

• Thursday, July 10 at 2 PM ET: Author Aymann Ismail!

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