Steven and Shaun return from their short break with a packed episode tackling everything from JAWS pricing drama to the future of smart doorbells and AI agents. A major focus is the workplace screen reader debate: why NVDA isn't widely adopted, and whether JAWS remains the only viable option for employment.

Later, they’re joined by Matt Ater and Ryan Jones from Vispero, who clarify misunderstandings around recent price changes, subscription models, and international support. The pair also tease new JAWS features coming this fall, including support for multi-line braille and AI-powered web navigation tools.

The episode also explores Ring's new AI video description feature for premium users, promising a step toward smarter accessibility. Plus, the team share a demo of Guide—an AI assistant that can perform actions on inaccessible websites—and react to Apple’s rumored Anthropic-powered Siri upgrade.

Chapters
00:00 - Introduction
00:19 - And we’re back from break!
12:15 - Ring doorbells get new AI features in USA and Canada
16:57 - Guide offers a way to easily interact with a computer
21:53 - Apple may use Anthropic to improve Siri more quickly
23:54 - New Macbook rumour using iPhone processor
26:52 - Vispero’s Matt Ater and Ryan Jones discuss pricing & 30 years of JAWS

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About Double Tap

Hosted by the insightful duo, Steven Scott and Shaun Preece, Double Tap is a treasure trove of information for anyone who's blind or partially sighted and has a passion for tech. Steven and Shaun not only demystify tech, but they also regularly feature interviews and welcome guests from the community, fostering an interactive and engaging environment. Tune in every day of the week, and you'll discover how technology can seamlessly integrate into your life, enhancing daily tasks and experiences, even if your sight is limited.

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In this episode, Steven and Shaun explore why JAWS dominates screen reader use in the workplace and whether NVDA is a viable alternative considering potential price increases for JAWS. They discuss pricing, support, accessibility scripting, and the future of assistive tech.

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With screen reader costs rising and accessibility funding under pressure, Steven and Shaun take a deep dive into the JAWS vs. NVDA debate. They question why JAWS continues to be the default in many workplaces despite NVDA's maturity and free availability. The conversation touches on software scripting, compatibility with custom enterprise tools, and the broader accessibility tech ecosystem.

Steven reflects on personal experiences with screen reader licensing, funding delays, and being offered limited choices in tech procurement. The duo also share frustrations with Windows and macOS accessibility bugs, VoiceOver focus issues, and WhatsApp interface quirks. Shaun raises the idea of jog wheels for audio editing and asks listeners for feedback on Reaper workflows.
The episode ends with a thought-provoking discussion on whether Microsoft should acquire an assistive tech company to secure the future of screen reading software.

Please note: Double Tap returns from break on the 7th June 2025.

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About Double Tap

Hosted by the insightful duo, Steven Scott and Shaun Preece, Double Tap is a treasure trove of information for anyone who's blind or partially sighted and has a passion for tech. Steven and Shaun not only demystify tech, but they also regularly feature interviews and welcome guests from the community, fostering an interactive and engaging environment. Tune in every day of the week, and you'll discover how technology can seamlessly integrate into your life, enhancing daily tasks and experiences, even if your sight is limited.

"Double Tap" is a registered trademark of Double Tap Productions Inc.

Is Eleven Labs building the next big voice assistant? Steven and Shaun break down the company's latest demo video and share their thoughts on the future of AI integration. Plus, practical talk on screen readers, accessible appliances, and daily blind tech.

This episode is supported by Pneuma Solutions. Creators of accessible tools like Remote Incident Manager and Scribe. Get $20 off with code dt20 at https://pneumasolutions.com/ and enter to win a free subscription at doubletaponair.com/subscribe!

Steven and Shaun dissect ElevenLabs’ new “11 AI” demo video and question whether it's more than marketing hype. While impressed by its natural-sounding voices and emotional tone control, they debate the lack of real integration and functionality, comparing it to other voice assistant platforms like Gemini and ChatGPT. The hosts also explore the deeper challenge of integrating AI across everyday apps and services—and why we're still not there yet.

Later, they shift to listener emails on topics including accessibility of LG appliances, the decline of WhatsApp support on older iPhones, alternatives for low-cost accessible tech, and the emotional weight of navigating blindness and independence. They also touch on third-party Android screen readers like Prudence, Bluetooth Apple TV setups, and the elusive “blindness uniform.”

Chapters
00:00 - Start
02:33 - Introducing 11 AI
14:18 - Do you wash your liquid level indicator?
26:54 - Sponsor: Pneuma Solutions
28:32 - Listener Joel on legacy technology
39:09 - Listener Jeff on accessible LG appliances, iPhone uses & Dummy HDMI
53:21 - Listener Jason on accessible PTT radios

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About Double Tap

Hosted by the insightful duo, Steven Scott and Shaun Preece, Double Tap is a treasure trove of information for anyone who's blind or partially sighted and has a passion for tech. Steven and Shaun not only demystify tech, but they also regularly feature interviews and welcome guests from the community, fostering an interactive and engaging environment. Tune in every day of the week, and you'll discover how technology can seamlessly integrate into your life, enhancing daily tasks and experiences, even if your sight is limited.

"Double Tap" is a registered trademark of Double Tap Productions Inc.