Join John and Derek as they unpack the latest twists and turns in Ironheart Episode 5, where Riri battles new enemies, faces tough choices, and embraces magic to upgrade her suit.

• Riri reconnects with Zelma, but danger escalates as The Hood’s dark power grows.
• After a fierce attack, Riri’s AI companion N.A.T.A.L.I.E. shuts down, and Ezekiel Stane returns with powerful new tech.
• With help from her family and friends, Riri starts crafting a magical upgrade — but the cost is higher than she expected.
• Parker seizes control of his father’s empire, unleashing more corruption and chaos.

• Character development and key plot events
• The implications of magic in Ironheart’s world
• Villain arcs and MCU Easter eggs
• Predictions for the season finale

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With one of our team lost in another realm, John and Derek return to discuss Ironheart Episode 4 "Bad Magic" in our spoiler-filled podcast. We may have gushed a little too much about the MCU arrival of one of our favourite Marvel witches but we make no apologies.

Directed by Angela Barnes

Written by Amir Sulaiman

Episode Synopsis:

Knowing that Parker Robbins, aka The Hood is on her trail, Riri analyzes the piece of The Hood’s cloak she recovered, which she discovers is an ancient energy source that Parker draws upon.

Meanwhile Eziekiel Stane (aka Joe McGillacuddy) has been arrested for the crew's heist after being implicated by the biomesh left behind by Riri, and he is very resentful towards her when she visits him in detention.

With things stacking up Ronnie, Riri’s mum, gets increasingly worried about her daughter and wants to help, bringing her to her friend Madeline Stanton, a former Kamar-Taj trainee, and her daughter Zelma.

The Stantons help examine the fragment of the hood and detect that it is from a dark dimension that is likely influencing Robbins, before abruptly ushering Riri and Ronnie out of the shop. Ronnie shares her frustrations about her daughter never opening up to her, but Riri leaves in her iron suit after pushing back against her mother’s assertion.

Frustrated in her lack of findings with the cloak fragment, Riri meets up with Xavier, who tries to support her but is later horrified by N.A.T.A.L.I.E. emulating his late sister's image. N.A.T.A.L.I.E. leaves when Riri contemplates Xavier's demand to delete it.

Elsewhere, The Hood breaks Eziekiel out of jail to recruit him as Riri's replacement, and Slug assists his efforts to implant bionic enhancements in his body, while secretly giving Parker access and control over the bionic enhancements.

With everything now in place, Parker sends the crew on an extra mission this time to kill Riri, telling them she killed Cousin John.

Ironheart Episode 4 Cast

• Dominique Thorne as Riri Williams / Ironheart
• Anthony Ramos as Parker Robbins / The Hood
• Lyric Ross as Natalie Washington / N.A.T.A.L.I.E.
• Matthew Elam as Xavier Washington
• Anji White as Ronnie Williams
• Shea Colee as Slug
• Sonia Denis as Clown
• Alden Ehrenreich as Ezekiel Stane

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We'll be back this weekend with our podcast on Ironheart Episode 5 "Karma's a Glitch". We hope you'll join us.

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Date recorded: 02/07/2025

Date published: 03/07/2025

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