In this powerful episode, Devi is joined by mental health advocate and thought leader Anne Russo for a conversation that speaks directly to the hearts of those healing from religious trauma. Anne brings deep wisdom and compassion as we explore what it means to reclaim your agency after experiencing harm in spiritual or religious spaces.

Together, they dive into the often-unspoken complexities of religious trauma — how it impacts identity, self-worth, and the connection to something greater. Anne shares her groundbreaking Religious Trauma Treatment Model, offering a path toward healing that honors both faith and authenticity, especially for those in the queer community who have felt excluded or erased.

“What is the definition of religious trauma?

If you think of PTSD, know where depression, anxiety, difficult functioning, challenges in relationships, you're just, overall, something has impacted you that is making life harder to live in a sense. And in this situation, we're talking about religion, and sometimes with PTSD, we can think of it as like a one-time event. I was in a car accident. I'm afraid to be in a car.

But with religious trauma, especially if you're raised in the church, you're going through these events over and over and over. So it becomes very, very complex. It impacts how you view yourself in relation to creation, deity, faith systems, scriptures, and how you navigate the world in these communities.”

This conversation is a reminder that true healing requires safe spaces, cultural competence, and deep humility from those who hold space for others. Whether you’ve personally experienced spiritual harm or are simply seeking to understand and support others on their journey, this episode invites you into a space of empathy, restoration, and radical self-reclamation.

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In this deeply personal episode, Devi opens her heart to reflect on the ever-evolving journey of healing, authenticity, and what it means to truly live in alignment. As she prepares to share her upcoming book Living in Wisdom with the world, she takes a moment to honor the path that brought her here, one filled with lessons from chronic pain, the power of self-expression, and the beauty of community support.

She expounds on the complexities of healing — how it’s not linear, not always graceful, but always sacred. Devi speaks to the importance of honoring our humanity, our physical bodies, and the tenderness it takes to keep showing up for ourselves day after day. We also explore how meditation is a portal to deeper knowing, the spiritual expansion that comes with self-compassion, and what it really means to share your truth out loud.

As Devi prepares for her book tour, she reflects on the courage it takes to put your story into the world — and how healing becomes even more powerful when it’s done in community. This is a conversation for anyone learning to trust their process, lean into their softness, and live from a place of embodied truth.

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Today, Devi is joined by the luminous Lee Harris — globally beloved energy intuitive and author — for a conversation that feels like a breath of clarity in the midst of a transformative era. Together, we reflect on the deep shifts happening in our world right now and what it means to care for ourselves while moving through such revolutionary times.

Lee offers insights from his new book The Future Human, and we dive into the wisdom of his guides, the Zs — who speak to the collective awakening unfolding all around us. We talk about how to stay rooted in our truth, how to recover from spiritual and emotional burnout, and the sacred practice of choosing self-care as an act of strength.

This episode also brings forward a conversation that so many of us are ready for — one about authority, co-dependence in spiritual spaces, and the journey of reclaiming your power. We explore how to honor your intuition, navigate your own evolution, and step away from projecting onto spiritual teachers so that your path remains your own.

This dialogue is an invitation to go deeper—into your practice, into your knowing, and into the quiet space where healing begins. It reminds you that you are your own sacred guide and that the work of becoming is always unfolding.

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