On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we hear part 2 of the full conversation of the KINDLE Founders, which took place in February 2025. Rev. Dean Nadasdy, a board member, facilitates a discussion with Bill Karpenko, Linda Olsen, Lyle Heggemeier, Sue Steege, Les Stroh and Steve Arnold where they discuss why they said yes, values of the organization, how KINDLE has changed in 25 years, hopes for the future and more!

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On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we hear part 1 of the full conversation of the KINDLE Founders, which took place in February 2025. Rev. Dean Nadasdy, a board member, facilitates a discussion with Bill Karpenko, Linda Olsen, Lyle Heggemeier, Sue Steege, Les Stroh and Steve Arnold where they discuss why they said yes, values of the organization, how KINDLE has changed in 25 years, hopes for the future and more!

Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org and to learn more about the organization and support our work!

Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review.

Connect with us!
Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders

If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily.phoenix@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way!

Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/

On this episode of “Cultivating Second Chair Leaders,” we chat with 2nd chair ministry leader, Hannah Lang about how she viewed leadership in her early years of ministry and what she has learned since about what it means to be a Christ-like servant leader. We also discuss tools and strategies on building community and preventing burnout in those first few years and the comfort we can find in knowing this is God’s church.

The Founders' moment from today's episode comes from Lyle Heggemeier, who lives in Des Moines, Iowa with his wife Debbie. In retirement, Lyle served KINDLE faithfully and also works at a local hardware store.

Resources mentioned in today's episode:

Messiah St. Charles kids podcast: https://normalgoesalongway.com/
The Chosen
The Six Types of Working Genius
The Hopeful Neighborhood Project
KINDLE Strands Practices and Outcomes

Check out Season 2 Episode 2 Discussion Guide for a growth plan template.

Go to www.kindleservantleaders.org and to learn more about the organization and support our work!

Share this episode with a friend and leave us a review.

Connect with us!
Instagram: @emilyphoenix or @kindle_social

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/KINDLEServantLeaders

If you have a question to ask or story to share about one of this season’s topics, we would love to hear from you. Send an email to emily.phoenix@kindleservantsleaders.org and we will share it along the way!

Download episode discussion guides at: https://www.kindleservantleaders.org/podcast/