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Climate Conversations

Climate Conversations

By: Robert McLean
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A continuous conversation about climate change - news, views and interviews.Robert McLean Philosophy Social Sciences
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  • Interview: Climate change demands a World War Two-like response from Australia, and the world, according to climate analyst and author, David Spratt
    Jun 28 2025

    David Spratt (pictured) points to Australia's commitments to other crises to illustrate his arguments on how and why we should respond to the unfolding emergency of climate change.

    He wrote about that in an article published recently in The Canberra Times, available now on his website, "Climate Code Red".

    The article asks the question: "How bad can climate damage get?" And then answers that "Worse than you imagine".

    David, working with the late Phillip Sutton, co-wrote, in 2008, the prescient book "Climate Code Red".

    In the final paragraph on his latest piece, David writes: "All of this leads to one conclusion: we are on the edge of a precipice and humanity now needs to throw everything at the climate threat, literally “all hands on deck”. The late Prof. Will Steffen’s call to make climate the primary target of policy and economics is now a survival imperative. The business-as-usual delusion embraced by policymakers that climate is just another issue is laid bare by the 1.5°C time-bomb."

    David is an Australian climate policy analyst and advocate, and Research Director at the Breakthrough National Centre for Climate Restoration. Spratt co-authored the 2008 book Climate Code Red: The Case for Emergency Action, which argued for urgent, large-scale action to address the climate crisis. He co-authored 2018’s What Lies Beneath: The Understatement of Existential Climate Risk with Ian Dunlop, which called for a reframing of climate science within an existential risk management framework. His work explores climate threats and human security, risk methods, and the need for restorative action.

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    22 mins
  • Climate News: The secrets of climate deniers explained: Caitlin Fitzsimmons delves into their playbook
    Jun 24 2025
    Melbourne Age reporter, Caitlin Fitzsimmons, takes us into the deniers' playbook to help us understand the motives: "How to get the best bang for your climate buck";"Woodside’s North West Shelf gas extension is being challenged in the courts. Could it be stopped?";"How bad can climate damage get? Worse than you imagine";"Global warming is changing cloud patterns. That means more global warming";"A Heat Wave Leaves Britons Looking for Ways to Stay Cool";"Bees are collapsing in the U.S. A key to their secrets might vanish";"Trump to strip protections from millions of acres of national forests";"Repeal of Clean Energy Law Will Mean a Hotter Planet, Scientists Warn";"Freak wind gusts made worse by climate change threaten airline passenger safety";"West Australian miners flexed their muscle to block a federal EPA last year. Will it be different this time?";"Beneath a ‘heat dome,’ the Washington monument closes and a region girds itself";"Figuring Out a Battery Storage System to Fit New York’s Wind and Solar Ambitions Has Not Been Easy";"Insect Numbers Are Plummeting: Here Are Eight Easy Ways to Help";"Are Sharks and Rays Using Offshore Wind Farms as Habitats?";"How to feel about climate change? A scientist reflects on anger, hope and love.";"The Fossil Fuel Industry Hasn't Come Up With a New Story in 100 Years, Why Do Climate Folks Find It So Hard to Keep Up?";"Revealed: the astonishing greenhouse gas emissions that will result from the North West Shelf project";"Only two years left of world’s carbon budget to meet 1.5C target, scientists warn";"Federal Labor ministers at odds over contentious NT gas pipeline decision, internal document shows";"Oil Companies Fight Climate Lawsuits by Citing Free Speech";"War, Inflation and Now Drought Are Hitting Global Food Supplies";"How Close Are the Planet’s Climate Tipping Points?".
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    50 mins
  • Climate News: Donald Trump's Iranian attacks bring fresh meaning to the 'tyranny of the immediate'
    Jun 23 2025

    Donald Trump's order to have the U.S. military attack uranium enrichment sites in Iran refreshes our understanding of the "tyranny of the immediate".

    From The New York Times, we hear about "Pentagon Details Multipronged Attack on Iranian Nuclear Sites".

    The military is not included in the 2019 Paris emissions targets due to pressure and agitation from the U.S., and this bombing raid clearly illustrates the reasons for that, as the emissions would have been equal to those of a small country.

    However, the Iranian assaults are a clear reminder of the tyranny of the immediate and why we need to rise above that and remember that climate change remains, all the time, in the background as an existential threat.

    And here is that earlier episode of Climate Conversations - "Press briefing: Covering Climate Now helps us understand the tyranny of the immediate in global conflicts".

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    23 mins
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