Episodes

  • Anna Klassen

    Anna Klassen
    Jun 30 2025

    In the third episode of season two, we're joined by former journalist Anna Klassen (Newsweek, The Daily Beast, BuzzFeed) to discuss her 2017 Black List script When Lightning Strikes — a coming-of-age story exploring the early life of J.K. Rowling, the novelist who conjured the magical world of Harry Potter.


    Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Anna Klassen ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on X, ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ and BlueSky

    Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky⁠⁠


    Visit ⁠⁠storyandplot.com/blacklisted⁠⁠ for a 10% discount on Tom Vaughan's fantastic screenwriting courses.


    Useful links:

    Final Draft - How Anna Klassen Turned Competition Wins into a Thriving Career

    Canvas Rebel - Meet Anna Klassen

    The Cosmophage - Anna Klassen

    The Script Lab - Interview

    Into The Script - Taking The Industry By Storm: An Interview with Screenwriter Anna Klassen

    Shoutout LA - Meet Anna Klassen | Screenwriter
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    53 mins
  • Travis Braun

    Travis Braun
    Jun 23 2025

    In our second episode of season two, we welcome Travis Braun to the podcast to discuss his 2022 Black List script, Dying For You. Travis made Black List history in December 2024, by becoming the first writer to top the list twice - and if that wasn't enough, he did it in successive years! Well done, TB.


    Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Travis Braun⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠

    Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky⁠


    Visit ⁠storyandplot.com/blacklisted⁠ for a 10% discount on Tom Vaughan's fantastic screenwriting courses.


    Useful links:

    Deadline - Travis Braun and Black List make history

    Deadline - 'One Night Only' sells to Universal

    Deadline - 'Bad Boy' package taken to EFM
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    1 hr and 1 min
  • Elyse Hollander

    Elyse Hollander
    Jun 16 2025
    In our Season 2 premiere, we welcome Elyse Hollander to discuss her 2016 Black List-topping script Blonde Ambition—a Madonna biopic chronicling the pop icon's rise through the sexism-fueled music industry of the early 1980s. After selling to Universal with Michael De Luca producing, the project sparked massive controversy when Madonna herself took to social media to publicly denounce it. For the first time, Elyse opens up about the media firestorm, the personal toll of being targeted by one of the world's biggest stars, and what it's really like when your breakthrough script becomes a lightning rod for public debate.Guest: ⁠⁠⁠Elyse Hollander ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSkyVisit storyandplot.com/blacklisted for a 10% discount on Tom Vaughan's fantastic screenwriting courses.Useful links:New York Times article on Madonna criticism BBC fact-check Elyse's screenplayTHR article on Madonna controversyDeadline article on Madonna reactionPeople - 'Madonna to write and direct her own biopic'Madonna's Netflix limited series announcementMaybe kindly buy our host a ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠coffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BlueSky ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email us @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theblacklisted.pod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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    59 mins
  • Lee Jessup

    Lee Jessup
    Jan 1 2025

    Happy New Year! Let us be the first to welcome you to 2025!


    Today we bring you a special - surprise - episode with screenwriting career coach, Lee Jessup.


    May Lee provide you with inspiration to kickstart the new year as you stare at that fresh blank page - full of potential.


    Take a Deeper Dive:


    The script consultant that both our host and Crosby Selander have employed is Andrew Hilton who goes by the pseudonym:The Screenplay Mechanic.


    His services can be accessed here.


    Competition details for Script Pipeline can be found here.


    Lee Jessup recently hosted the Final Draft Write On podcast, discussing the state of the industry for screenwriters with Bellevue manager, Jeff Portnoy.


    Listen to the packed episode here.


    Guest: Lee Jessup⁠ on ⁠Instagram⁠ and X

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    44 mins
  • Kate Sharp

    Kate Sharp
    Dec 10 2024
    In our final bonus episode with lit managers of season one, we speak with producer Kate Sharp of Bellevue Productions. Kate is the lit manager of season one guests: Alexandra Tran and Jessica Welsh. Take a Deeper Dive: Interesting article about the curious case of copyright as it applies to Frank Capra's It's A Wonderful Life - here. The script we talk about that sold for $2M to MGM Amazon Studios was a spec by Nyad scribe, Julia Cox. Article link here. After Kate and I spoke, another spec hit the market (Alignment) about the travails of AI - this time from an unknown, unrepped screenwriter - and sold for $1.25M (against $3.25M) to Fifth Season. Link to that story here. Guest: ⁠⁠⁠Kate Sharp on Instagram Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠BSky⁠⁠ If you can make the stretch, maybe kindly tip your host with a ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠coffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠BSky⁠⁠ Email us @ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theblacklisted.pod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Sign up for our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠
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    44 mins
  • Matthew Dartnell

    Matthew Dartnell
    Dec 2 2024

    In our third of four bonus episodes with lit managers, we speak with genre aficionado Matthew Dartnell of Writ Large.


    Matt is the lit manager of season one guest: Austin Everett.


    Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Matt Dartnell⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠

    Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠BSky⁠


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    56 mins
  • Chris Coggins

    Chris Coggins
    Nov 25 2024

    In our second bonus episode with literary managers, we speak with the manager of our very own host, Chris Coggins, over at Heroes and Villains Entertainment.


    Chris is the lit manager of season one guest: Noga Pnueli.


    Guest: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Coggins ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠⁠⁠Instagram and X

    Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and BSky


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    47 mins
  • John Zaozirny

    John Zaozirny
    Nov 18 2024

    In our first bonus episode, we speak with John Zaozirny - the founder and head of Bellevue Productions.


    John is the literary manager of season one guests: Ian Shorr, Kevin Sheridan and Sophia Lopez.


    Guest: ⁠⁠⁠John Zaozirny ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠on ⁠⁠X

    Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Chris Hill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on ⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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    1 hr and 5 mins