Double-booked calendars, fast-talking optimism, and more ideas than minutes in the day…welcome to the world of the Enneagram 7!

In this (slightly turbo) episode of Beyond Your Number, Damon and Kelly explore how Type 7s approach communication, why they’re magnets for new experiencesand how to keep up without getting lost in the whirlwind.

• Why “yes” is a 7’s favorite word
• The line between healthy optimism and escaping reality
• How to invite a 7’s input and why it matters
• Practical ways to communicate without overwhelming them
• The secret sauce: saying “Wow!” before “How?”

Whether you’re a 7, love a 7, or just wonder how they stay so upbeat, this episode is packed with laughter and real-life insights to help every personality connect better.

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What’s it like to talk with a Type 8? Passionate. Direct. Powerful. And sometimes, intense. In this episode, Kelly shares from her own experience as a Type 8—what works, what doesn't, and what eights most need from you in communication. Damon helps us see how that energy can feel to others, especially when it gets misunderstood. Whether you're an Eight, love one, or work with one, this conversation unpacks the heart behind the boldness and the vulnerability behind the strength.

Episode Highlights:

• Why directness is a strength—but also a challenge—for Type 8s
• Kelly shares how texting “OK” nearly caused a crisis
• The difference between being blunt vs. being clear
• What Eights really mean when their volume goes up
• How to hold space for a powerful personality without backing down
• Why protecting people and causes drives how Eights communicate
• How to gain trust and connection with a Type 8 (and what breaks it)
• Damon’s reminder: “Don’t match intensity—just be yourself.”
• What Eights want you to know but won’t always say out loud

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Type Fives are thoughtful, observant, and incredibly insightful—if you give them the space to speak. In this episode, Damon and Kelly unpack how Fives approach communication, why they avoid surface-level conversations, and what it really takes to earn their input and trust. If you’ve ever wondered what’s going on behind a Five’s quiet presence, this one’s for you.

In This Episode:

• Why Type Fives value space, privacy, and logic in conversations
• The strengths of Fives: listening, simplifying, and strategic thinking
• How to communicate with Fives: clear expectations, emotional patience, and deadlines
• The challenge of emotional expression and how Fives can grow
• Real-life team dynamics and funny truths about meeting leadership

New here? Check out Episode 100 to hear how each Enneagram type handles change—and where this podcast is heading next.

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