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We’re Ashley and Liz, two real-life besties who’ve loved books since we first learned to read, so naturally, we started a podcast! We would say the rest is history but in actuality, it's just the beginning. So come join us in the next chapter of our lives as we introduce ourselves, and laugh our way through the world of books with a focus on Fantasy, Romantasy, and Dark Romance. Of course we have love for all book genres, but those are our absolute favorites!

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  • Ep 67 Spark of the Everflame Review, Summary, and Deep Dive | Kindred’s Curse Saga Book 1
    Jun 24 2025

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    "In this episode of Besties in the Books, hosts Liz and Ashley dive into Spark of the Everflame by Penn Cole, the first book in the Kindred Curse Saga. As a fresh romantasy read from a New York Times bestselling debut author, this novel blends strong female leads, a compelling magic system, and light feminist themes that set it apart in the fantasy genre. The hosts share a spoiler-free review, their personal star and spice ratings, and discuss Penn Cole’s thoughtful character development, world building, and tropes like hidden identity and slow burn romance. They also highlight their exclusive spoiler-free interview with Penn Cole—linked below—along with community reactions on their Fable book club and good reads. Perfect for romantasy lovers and fantasy newcomers alike, this deep-dive episode offers layered insight, trope breakdowns, and fun personal updates, all while celebrating one of the genre’s most talked-about series."

    We’re finally here to do our deep dive series on Penn Cole’s amazing debut Spark of the Everflame! Book 1 in the Kindred’s Curse Saga is a fantastic start to an epic slow burn Romantasy series, but is also an examination of the effects of colonialism, classism, racism, and sexism (among other examples of inequality) on a fictional world, and we’re here to talk about it!

    We had the pleasure of interviewing Penn Cole about her thoughts on these topics, on strong female characters and the men that support them, and why these stories about unlikely heroines fighting for justice resonate so much with us. So make sure to check that episode out and then dive right into our talk about book one.

    We have spoiler free reviews, our spice rating, our five sentence summary of the entire plot, and then all of our likes and dislikes. What tropes did we enjoy? Plot points? Does this book deserve all the hype? And most importantly… what are the feminist themes? And are we excited to keep going?

    Stick around to find out, to hear all about our faves and fails TV / ½ Marathon edition, and a smash or pass with America’s favorite sweetheart and a hell demon.

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    Check out these author interviews? ⬇️
    Penn Cole talks with us about Strong Female Characters, Feminist Themes, and her debut bestselling Spark of the Everflame Series! https://youtu.be/7ukNImyoObw?si=7C3Y9kOUMN4hfcKb

    We interviewed Callie Hart all about her NYT Bestseller Quicksilver! Watch it here! https://youtu.be/CED5s7qDBdQ?si=8xtIRO1IzX6Rsld4

    Check the official Author Interview with Lindsay Straube of Split or Swallow! Now a Barnes & Noble & Amazon best seller titled: Kiss of the Basilisk! https://youtu.be/fknhocSNIKM

    Need more ACOTAR in your life? Cook your way through Velaris with the help of Chelsea Cole and her cookbook A Feast of Thorns & Roses. Check out our author interview here! https://youtu.be/fjzmqd-x3OA?si=kNJ4D9cxvUjhp-I

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    Ashley is Wearing: Red Starborn Fae Hoodie from @LionheartThreads | * https://go.magik.ly/ml/27ucw/ | Use Code: LIZ15 to save!
    Liz is Wearing: R

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    1 hr and 10 mins
  • Ep 66 Wild by Cheryl Strayed: Grief, Finding Yourself, and Journeying as a Female | Books That Made Us College Follow Up
    Jun 17 2025

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    Today’s episode is officially our second non fiction / memoir that we’re reviewing on the podcast and a follow up to our “books that made us” series covering our college years. Ashley and Liz both presented five of the books that helped shape our personalities as early 20-something’s in the world, put all the titles into our trusted BATB beanie™, and then chose one to reread. The result: us covering Wild, the super popular story of Cheryl Strayed solo hiking 1200 miles of California’s Pacific Crest Trail with no prior backpacking experience as her way of processing her mother’s sudden death.

    This was Ashley’s first time on this journey, and Liz’s second. Follow along as we rate and review the story, writing quality and style, explore the author’s background and purpose in writing a memoir, delve into whether we think their story warranted an entire book dedicated to their journey, if it met our expectations, and if we connected with any of the themes on a personal level.

    We discuss high and low reviews, its popularity, the audiobook and movie adaptations, and if we think it deserves the hype. And we also make sure to bring a fave and fail outdoor edition, and a smash or pass PCT / Lincoln commercial edition.

    Watch the Books That Made Us Playlist! | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t6T0pPbgkc&list=PLHf5v0KOoZMlj_YBqZCxmyIZi8Idv0mkI&pp=gAQB

    Watch the Farenheit 182 Mark Hoppus of blink 182 Memoir | https://youtu.be/NXoRDLDg_iA?si=nDCV8-Pb9lvEowgX

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    Check out these author interviews? ⬇️

    We interviewed Callie Hart all about her NYT Bestseller Quicksilver! Watch it here! https://youtu.be/CED5s7qDBdQ?si=8xtIRO1IzX6Rsld4

    Check the official Author Interview with Lindsay Straube of Split or Swallow! Now a Barnes & Noble & Amazon best seller titled: Kiss of the Basilisk! https://youtu.be/fknhocSNIKM

    Need more ACOTAR in your life? Cook your way through Velaris with the help of Chelsea Cole and her cookbook A Feast of Thorns & Roses. Check out our author interview here! https://youtu.be/fjzmqd-x3OA?si=kNJ4D9cxvUjhp-Ik

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    Shop bookish apparel worn in this episode!

    Ashley is Wearing: “Read Books Stay Weird” Tee by @Shopwildeshadows | https://www.wildeshadows.com

    Liz is Wearing: ”Fire Breathing Bit*h Tee” by @chaptercatchers | https://www.etsy.com/listing/1714014123/aelin-galathynius-baby-tee-throne-of?ga_search_query=Fire%2Bbreathing&ref=shop_items_search_1&logging_key=c1da6191cd33d48291f4deedd9718af946825003%3A1714014123

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    1 hr and 37 mins
  • Ep 65 Talking STRONG Female Characters and Kindred’s Curse With Penn Cole! | Author Interview
    Jun 10 2025

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    In this episode we’re chatting with none other than THE Penn Cole! Bestselling fantasy romance author of her debut series The Kindred’s Curse Saga, also known as Spark, Glow, and Heat of the Everflame, with Burn of the Everflame on the way! Today’s episode will be completely spoiler free aside from a potential 5 minute spoiler section at the end we’ll warn you about, so even if you haven’t read these books yet, or you haven’t made it all the way through the series, you can stick around to chit chat with us, find out what you’ll be getting into when you pick this series up, and get to know the author behind the story.

    Penn is a New York Times and USA Today bestselling author who has been writing her whole life but took a career detour as an attorney and small business owner. She’s thrilled to finally be accomplishing her lifelong dream of becoming an author, and when she's not writing she’s meeting and supporting others (especially women and BIPOC/LGBTQ+ authors) and reading fantasy, romcoms, and humorous non-fiction.

    We had the pleasure of meeting Penn at Romantasy Book Con this last February and also got to listen to her speak on several author panels! We were SO inspired by her ideas and input surrounding strong female characters and stories that center women’s experiences that we immediately reached out for this interview. If you’re curious to find out Penn Cole’s take on what romantasy is doing for the book world, if it should be considered fantasy at all, why books that center female experiences and pleasure are often times minimized or infantilized, and why we relate so much to strong, badass heroines… stick around.

    We also discuss her writing process, inspiration, and what’s coming next. This conversation gets deep, and we’re so happy to share it with you! And don’t worry… we have Penn’s fave and fail all about Kindred’s Curse and an on the spot smash or pass.

    Check out Penn Cole | https://www.penncole.com/ and on IG & TikTok @authorpenncole

    Don't be shy, subscribe! New Podcasts every Tuesday!! (And sometimes Friday!…)
    Check out these author interviews? ⬇️

    We interviewed Callie Hart all about her NYT Bestseller Quicksilver! Watch it here! https://youtu.be/CED5s7qDBdQ?si=8xtIRO1IzX6Rsld4

    Check the official Author Interview with Lindsay Straube of Split or Swallow! Now a Barnes & Noble & Amazon best seller titled: Kiss of the Basilisk! https://youtu.be/fknhocSNIKM

    Need more ACOTAR in your life? Cook your way through Velaris with the help of Chelsea Cole and her cookbook A Feast of Thorns & Roses. Check out our author interview here! https://youtu.be/fjzmqd-x3OA?si=kNJ4D9cxvUjhp-Ik

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    @BestiesandtheBooksPodcast

    Besties and the Book Club on Fable!
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    Liz
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    @TheRealLifeVeganWife

    Ashley
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    Shop bookish apparel worn in this episode!
    Ashley is Wearing: Ashley is wearing “Support Your Local Book Dealer” tee from @ShopWildeshadows | https://www.wildeshadows.com

    Liz is wearing a Black Shadow Daddy Tee

    Any link with an * is an affiliate link through the service Magic Links and is eligible for a commission to us with no extra cost to you. Thank you for helping support our podcast!

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    @BestiesandtheBooksPodcast

    Besties and the Book Club on Fable!
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    Liz
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    @TheRealLifeVeganWife

    Ashley
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    1 hr and 13 mins
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