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  • How Great Leaders Stay Human in the Age of AI – Faisal Hoque

    How Great Leaders Stay Human in the Age of AI – Faisal Hoque
    Apr 29 2025
    What do failure, artificial intelligence, and mindful leadership have in common? They're all critical elements in the journey of Faisal Hoque - entrepreneur, innovator, and one of today’s most respected voices in business transformation. In this episode of Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder, I’m joined by Faisal Hoque for a candid discussion about how great leaders navigate complexity, maintain their humanity, and build organizations that thrive in an era defined by rapid technological change. We explore: Why failure is foundational to entrepreneurial success How Faisal’s leadership style has evolved - and the importance of the “middle path” The interplay between innovation, AI, and human-centered values Practical strategies for resilience and purpose-driven leadership We also dive into Faisal’s bestselling book, Transcend: Unlocking Humanity in the Age of AI, which outlines a framework for integrating human values into the future of work and technology. Whether you're an entrepreneur, executive, or advisor, you’ll take away powerful insights on how to lead with clarity, courage, and character - especially when the stakes are high and the landscape is shifting. Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review - it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show! ----more----About Faisal Hoque: Faisal Hoque is the founder of SHADOKA and NextChapter and serves as a transformation and innovation partner for CACI, an $8 billion company focused on U.S. national security. He is a #1 Wall Street Journal and USA Today bestselling author with ten award-winning books to his name. His new book, TRANSCEND: Unlocking Humanity in the Age of AI, has been named by the Next Big Idea Club as a ‘must read'. For thirty years, he has been developing commercial business and technology systems, and enabling leadership teams at MasterCard, American Express, GE, Home Depot, French Social Security Services, US Department of Defense (DoD), US Department of Homeland Security (DHS), PepsiCo, IBM, Chase, and others with sustainable growth. Today, Faisal is a highly sought-after innovation and transformation (digital/AI, business, organization) partner for both public and private sector organizations, and recognized as one of the world’s leading management thinkers and technologists. As a founder and CEO of multiple companies, he is a three-time winner of the Deloitte Technology Fast 50TM and Fast 500TM awards. Faisal is a contributor at MIT's IDEAS Social Innovation program, Thinkers50, and the Swiss business school IMD. His work has appeared in Fast Company, Harvard Business Review, The Wall Street Journal, The Financial Times, Business Insider, Fortune, Inc., Yahoo Finance, Fox, ABC, CBS, and others. Learn more at https://faisalhoque.com/ About the Host: Dave Bookbinder is known as an expert in business valuation and he is the person that business owners and entrepreneurs reach out to when they need to know what their most important assets are worth. Known as a collaborative adviser, Dave has served thousands of client companies of all sizes and industries. Dave is the author of two #1 best-selling books about the impact of human capital (PEOPLE!) on the valuation of a business enterprise called The NEW ROI: Return On Individuals & The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers. He’s on a mission to change the conversation about how the accounting world recognizes the value of people’s contributions to a business enterprise, and to quantify what every CEO on the planet claims: “Our people are this company’s most valuable asset.” Dave’s book, A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know, was recognized as a top new release in Business and Valuation and is designed to provide practical insights and tools to help understand what really drives business value, how to prepare for an exit, and just make better decisions. He’s also the host of the highly rated Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder business podcast which is enjoyed in more than 100 countries. 🔸 Grab Dave’s Books: The New ROI: Return on Individuals | The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers | A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know 🔸 Connect with Dave on LinkedIn 🔸 Connect with Dave on FaceBook 🔸 Follow Dave on Twitter 🔸 Check out www.NEWROI.com for more. 💡 Want to share your insights with the business community? Message Dave to learn how you can be a guest on Behind The Numbers. https://linktr.ee/BehindTheNumbers 🔹 Check out more of Behind The Numbers on YouTube Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review to help more listeners discover the show! To do so, here are the simple instructions: Open Apple Podcast App.Go to...
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    38 mins
  • Building Better Leaders: Motivation, Mindset & Meaning - H.R. Huntsman

    Building Better Leaders: Motivation, Mindset & Meaning - H.R. Huntsman
    Apr 22 2025
    What really drives performance in today’s best leaders? This episode explores the mindset and methods that create high-impact leadership. In this episode of Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder, we’re exploring how great leaders are made—not born. Dave Bookbinder welcomes H.R. Huntsman, organizational strategist, keynote speaker, and founder of Leaders Edge, to unpack the real mechanics of leadership. From a difficult upbringing to global humanitarian efforts, H.R.’s journey is a masterclass in resilience and purpose-driven leadership. We dive deep into: How understanding human motivation drives team performance Why mindset is the foundation for effective leadership The role of creative conflict and psychological safety in innovation How to foster accountability without micromanaging The Leaders Edge performance engine and how it’s transforming organizations Whether you’re a business owner, a manager, or someone aspiring to lead with more impact, you’ll walk away with practical insights to build trust, boost engagement, and align people with purpose. Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review—it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show! About Our Guest: HR Huntsman is the founder of Leader’s Edge. He is also a business and leadership keynote speaker, organizational strategist, author, business executive coach, and business leadership consultant. HR founded Leader’s Edge to be able to invest in leaders, especially young leaders. His passion stems from his backstory of overcoming early childhood struggles then going on to building successful and impactful organizations. HR now shares many of the life and leadership principles he learned in his 30+ years of leadership with other leaders. He firmly believes to succeed one must begin with mindset, then move on to principles and disciplines which create long term success for a company or individual. HR is an accomplished speaker having given roughly 4000 talks to approximately 400k people around the world. About the Host: Dave Bookbinder is known as an expert in business valuation and he is the person that business owners and entrepreneurs reach out to when they need to know what their most important assets are worth. Known as a collaborative adviser, Dave has served thousands of client companies of all sizes and industries. Dave is the author of two #1 best-selling books about the impact of human capital (PEOPLE!) on the valuation of a business enterprise called The NEW ROI: Return On Individuals & The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers. He’s on a mission to change the conversation about how the accounting world recognizes the value of people’s contributions to a business enterprise, and to quantify what every CEO on the planet claims: “Our people are this company’s most valuable asset.” Dave’s book, A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know, was recognized as a top new release in Business and Valuation and is designed to provide practical insights and tools to help understand what really drives business value, how to prepare for an exit, and just make better decisions. He’s also the host of the highly rated Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder business podcast which is enjoyed in more than 100 countries. 🔸 Grab Dave’s Books: The New ROI: Return on Individuals | The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers | A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know 🔸 Connect with Dave on LinkedIn 🔸 Connect with Dave on FaceBook 🔸 Follow Dave on Twitter 🔸 Check out www.NEWROI.com for more. 💡 Want to share your insights with the business community? Message Dave to learn how you can be a guest on Behind The Numbers. https://linktr.ee/BehindTheNumbers 🔹 Check out more of Behind The Numbers on YouTube Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review to help more listeners discover the show! To do so, here are the simple instructions: Open Apple Podcast App.Go to the icons at the bottom of the screen and choose “search” for Behind The Numbers with Dave Bookbinder PodcastClick on the SHOW, not the episode.Scroll all the way down to “Ratings and Reviews”Click on “Write a Review” BEHIND THE NUMBERS WITH DAVE BOOKBINDER IS ENJOYED IN MORE THAN 100 COUNTRIES AND WAS RECENTLY NAMED THE #1 BUSINESS VALUATION PODCAST TO FOLLOW IN 2025. THANK YOU FOR MAKING BEHIND THE NUMBERS AMONG THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS GLOBALLY!
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    30 mins
  • Align Strategy, Culture, and People for Organizational Success - Jurriaan Kamer

    Align Strategy, Culture, and People for Organizational Success - Jurriaan Kamer
    Apr 15 2025
    How do high-performing organizations remove barriers and unlock results? In this episode, we’re exploring proven strategies for aligning strategy, empowering people, and creating a culture built for growth. In this episode of Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder, we’re exploring what it really takes to build a thriving organization. Dave is joined by Jurriaan Kamer—co-founder of Unblock and author of Unblock: Clear the Way for Results and Develop a Thriving Organization. Jurriaan is a Dutch organizational change agent with a global perspective on how businesses can align strategy, empower people, and drive sustainable results. You’ll hear how to: Align strategic decision-making with organizational goals Use leading indicators to drive business success Dismantle unproductive meetings and promote psychological safety Build a culture of trust, autonomy, and continuous improvement This episode is packed with practical insights for business owners, leaders, and anyone committed to fostering a more effective and human-centered organization. Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review—it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show! About Our Guest: Jurriaan Kamer is a future-oriented organizational change expert, co-founder of Unblock (a modern management consultancy), and a keynote speaker. He's the author of 'Formula X' - a business novel inspired by the world of Formula 1. His second leadership book "Unblock: Clear the Way for Results and Develop a Thriving Organization," is about unblocking organizations by rethinking strategy, decision-making, teamwork, and ownership. About the Host: Dave Bookbinder is known as an expert in business valuation and he is the person that business owners and entrepreneurs reach out to when they need to know what their most important assets are worth. Known as a collaborative adviser, Dave has served thousands of client companies of all sizes and industries. Dave is the author of two #1 best-selling books about the impact of human capital (PEOPLE!) on the valuation of a business enterprise called The NEW ROI: Return On Individuals & The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers. He’s on a mission to change the conversation about how the accounting world recognizes the value of people’s contributions to a business enterprise, and to quantify what every CEO on the planet claims: “Our people are this company’s most valuable asset.” Dave’s book, A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know, was recognized as a top new release in Business and Valuation and is designed to provide practical insights and tools to help understand what really drives business value, how to prepare for an exit, and just make better decisions. He’s also the host of the highly rated Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder business podcast which is enjoyed in more than 100 countries. 🔸 Grab Dave’s Books: The New ROI: Return on Individuals | The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers | A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know 🔸 Connect with Dave on LinkedIn 🔸 Connect with Dave on FaceBook 🔸 Follow Dave on Twitter 🔸 Check out www.NEWROI.com for more. 💡 Want to share your insights with the business community? Message Dave to learn how you can be a guest on Behind The Numbers. https://linktr.ee/BehindTheNumbers 🔹 Check out more of Behind The Numbers on YouTube Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review to help more listeners discover the show! To do so, here are the simple instructions: Open Apple Podcast App.Go to the icons at the bottom of the screen and choose “search” for Behind The Numbers with Dave Bookbinder PodcastClick on the SHOW, not the episode.Scroll all the way down to “Ratings and Reviews”Click on “Write a Review” BEHIND THE NUMBERS WITH DAVE BOOKBINDER IS ENJOYED IN MORE THAN 100 COUNTRIES AND WAS RECENTLY NAMED THE #1 BUSINESS VALUATION PODCAST TO FOLLOW IN 2025. THANK YOU FOR MAKING BEHIND THE NUMBERS AMONG THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS GLOBALLY!
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    29 mins
  • Hire Better People Faster: Recruitment Strategies for Business Success - Ryan Englin

    Hire Better People Faster: Recruitment Strategies for Business Success - Ryan Englin
    Apr 8 2025
    How do you build a team that truly drives business success? In this episode of Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder, we explore the critical link between talent and enterprise value with Ryan Englin, CEO of Core Matters and author of Hire Better People Faster. Ryan, who grew up in a blue-collar family, understands the unique hiring challenges in the trades and beyond. He shares why people don’t just quit jobs—they quit leaders—and explains what business owners can do to create a culture that retains top talent. Key insights include: ✅ Why hiring is a marketing activity—and how most businesses miss this point ✅ The importance of an effective careers page in attracting top candidates ✅ How to evaluate culture fit and authenticity during the interview process ✅ The role of empathy in leadership and its impact on employee retention ✅ Strategies for becoming an "employer of choice" to attract the right talent Plus, Ryan shares a special offer for listeners—a free copy of his book, Hire Better People Faster! Get it here: https://corematters.com/freebook/ Tune in to discover actionable strategies to improve your hiring process and build a team that fuels business success. 📌 Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review—it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show! About Our Guest: Ryan Englin is passionate about supporting growing businesses, particularly in blue-collar industries, to build amazingly productive companies by hiring the right people. Growing up, he saw his own father working 12-hour shifts and weekends as an owner/operator, witnessing firsthand the struggles that these companies have in hiring quality frontline employees. Ryan was determined to help them find a better way. His company, Core Matters, provides coaching and training on attracting, hiring, and retaining rock star employees. Using his proven process, the Core Fit Hiring System, small and midsize businesses learn how to start hiring better people, faster. Ryan is the author of Hire Better People Faster hosts the Titans of the Trades podcast. About the Host: Dave Bookbinder is known as an expert in business valuation and he is the person that business owners and entrepreneurs reach out to when they need to know what their most important assets are worth. Known as a collaborative adviser, Dave has served thousands of client companies of all sizes and industries. Dave is the author of two #1 best-selling books about the impact of human capital (PEOPLE!) on the valuation of a business enterprise called The NEW ROI: Return On Individuals & The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers. He’s on a mission to change the conversation about how the accounting world recognizes the value of people’s contributions to a business enterprise, and to quantify what every CEO on the planet claims: “Our people are this company’s most valuable asset.” Dave’s book, A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know, was recognized as a top new release in Business and Valuation and is designed to provide practical insights and tools to help understand what really drives business value, how to prepare for an exit, and just make better decisions. He’s also the host of the highly rated Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder business podcast which is enjoyed in more than 100 countries. 🔸 Grab Dave’s Books: The New ROI: Return on Individuals | The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers | A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know 🔸 Connect with Dave on LinkedIn 🔸 Connect with Dave on FaceBook 🔸 Follow Dave on Twitter 🔸 Check out www.NEWROI.com for more. 💡 Want to share your insights with the business community? Message Dave to learn how you can be a guest on Behind The Numbers. https://linktr.ee/BehindTheNumbers 🔹 Check out more of Behind The Numbers on YouTube Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review to help more listeners discover the show! To do so, here are the simple instructions: Open Apple Podcast App.Go to the icons at the bottom of the screen and choose “search” for Behind The Numbers with Dave Bookbinder PodcastClick on the SHOW, not the episode.Scroll all the way down to “Ratings and Reviews”Click on “Write a Review” BEHIND THE NUMBERS WITH DAVE BOOKBINDER IS ENJOYED IN MORE THAN 100 COUNTRIES AND WAS RECENTLY NAMED THE #1 BUSINESS VALUATION PODCAST TO FOLLOW IN 2025. THANK YOU FOR MAKING BEHIND THE NUMBERS AMONG THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS GLOBALLY!
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    35 mins
  • Thriving Under Private Equity: Strategies for Growth & Leadership - Claire Milligan

    Thriving Under Private Equity: Strategies for Growth & Leadership - Claire Milligan
    Apr 1 2025
    In this episode of Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder, Dave visits with Claire Milligan, CEO and co-founder of Aimably, to explore the complexities of private equity ownership. Claire shares her personal journey in the private equity landscape, highlighting the unique challenges and opportunities companies encounter when transitioning from venture capital to private equity. Throughout the conversation, Claire provides practical insights into value creation under private equity ownership. She discusses crucial strategies for managing cloud costs and the delicate balance between pursuing growth and ensuring profitability. Claire emphasizes the importance of financial literacy and understanding key performance metrics as essential tools for thriving in a private equity environment. In addition, Claire offers a fresh perspective on safeguarding teams amidst the evolving dynamics of private equity. She underscores the significance of adapting leadership strategies to foster success in this competitive arena. Whether you're a business owner navigating growth phases or an aspiring leader in the tech industry, this episode offers actionable advice to navigate the intricate demands of private equity ownership. Tune in to gain valuable insights and strategies from Claire Milligan and Aimably's journey. Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review—it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show! About Claire Milligan: Claire Milligan thrives on distilling complex problems down to their core issues — and turning these pragmatic findings into groundbreaking solutions. She started her career as a software designer and worked her way up to leading business unit strategy at Emburse, a company backed by private equity. Now, as the CEO and Co-Founder of Aimably, she helps technology companies save money by making better decisions about their cloud spending. With her mix of technical know-how, business experience, and a passion for helping others, she brings valuable insights to any conversation about business growth and smart spending. About the Host: Dave Bookbinder is known as an expert in business valuation and he is the person that business owners and entrepreneurs reach out to when they need to know what their most important assets are worth. Known as a collaborative adviser, Dave has served thousands of client companies of all sizes and industries. Dave is the author of two #1 best-selling books about the impact of human capital (PEOPLE!) on the valuation of a business enterprise called The NEW ROI: Return On Individuals & The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers. He’s on a mission to change the conversation about how the accounting world recognizes the value of people’s contributions to a business enterprise, and to quantify what every CEO on the planet claims: “Our people are this company’s most valuable asset.” Dave’s book, A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know, was recognized as a top new release in Business and Valuation and is designed to provide practical insights and tools to help understand what really drives business value, how to prepare for an exit, and just make better decisions. He’s also the host of the highly rated Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder business podcast which is enjoyed in more than 100 countries. 🔸 Grab Dave’s Books: The New ROI: Return on Individuals | The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers | A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know 🔸 Connect with Dave on LinkedIn 🔸 Connect with Dave on FaceBook 🔸 Follow Dave on Twitter 🔸 Check out www.NEWROI.com for more. 💡 Want to share your insights with the business community? Message Dave to learn how you can be a guest on Behind The Numbers. https://linktr.ee/BehindTheNumbers 🔹 Check out more of Behind The Numbers on YouTube Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review to help more listeners discover the show! To do so, here are the simple instructions: Open Apple Podcast App.Go to the icons at the bottom of the screen and choose “search” for Behind The Numbers with Dave Bookbinder PodcastClick on the SHOW, not the episode.Scroll all the way down to “Ratings and Reviews”Click on “Write a Review” BEHIND THE NUMBERS WITH DAVE BOOKBINDER IS ENJOYED IN MORE THAN 100 COUNTRIES. THANK YOU FOR MAKING BEHIND THE NUMBERS AMONG THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS GLOBALLY!
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    31 mins
  • How to Turn Podcast Interviews Into Business Growth – Tom Schwab

    How to Turn Podcast Interviews Into Business Growth – Tom Schwab
    Mar 25 2025
    In this episode of Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder, Dave is joined by Tom Schwab, founder and Chief Evangelist Officer of Interview Valet, to unpack how podcast interviews can drive real business growth. Widely known as the godfather of podcast interview marketing, Tom has helped countless thought leaders, entrepreneurs, and professionals turn podcast guest appearances into measurable ROI. In this insightful conversation, Tom shares his journey from blogging to podcasting and explains why being the guest is often more impactful than hosting a show. He and Dave explore what separates great podcast guests from forgettable ones, why delivering value beats pitching products, and how even introverts can win big in this space. Key takeaways include: How podcast interviews drive growth through trust and authority Smart strategies for pitching yourself as a podcast guest Preparing for interviews to maximize impact and repurpose content The evolving role of AI in content discovery and distribution Why relationships and resonance matter more than downloads If you're looking to boost visibility, build authority, and grow your business through podcast interviews, this episode is a must-listen. Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review—it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show! About Tom Schwab: Tom Schwab is a leading authority on leveraging podcast guest appearances and AI-powered strategies to drive business growth. Asthe Founder of Interview Valet, the premier podcast guest marketing agency, Tom has worked with over 1,500 clients, including Fortune 500 companies, professional services, and high-level coaches. His innovative approach centers on building meaningful conversations that convert, rather than relying on outdated marketing funnels. An engineer by training, Navy veteran, and former Nuclear Propulsion Plant Operator, Tom brings a unique perspective to marketing, combining analytical precision with creative strategy. He is the author of Podcast Guest Profits: How to Grow Your Business with a Targeted Interview Strategy, often regarded as the bible of podcast marketing. About the Host: Dave Bookbinder is known as an expert in business valuation and he is the person that business owners and entrepreneurs reach out to when they need to know what their most important assets are worth. Known as a collaborative adviser, Dave has served thousands of client companies of all sizes and industries. Dave is the author of two #1 best-selling books about the impact of human capital (PEOPLE!) on the valuation of a business enterprise called The NEW ROI: Return On Individuals & The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers. He’s on a mission to change the conversation about how the accounting world recognizes the value of people’s contributions to a business enterprise, and to quantify what every CEO on the planet claims: “Our people are this company’s most valuable asset.” Dave’s book, A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know, was recognized as a top new release in Business and Valuation and is designed to provide practical insights and tools to help understand what really drives business value, how to prepare for an exit, and just make better decisions. He’s also the host of the highly rated Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder business podcast which is enjoyed in more than 100 countries. 🔸 Grab Dave’s Books: The New ROI: Return on Individuals | The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers | A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know 🔸 Connect with Dave on LinkedIn 🔸 Connect with Dave on FaceBook 🔸 Follow Dave on Twitter 🔸 Check out www.NEWROI.com for more. 💡 Want to share your insights with the business community? Message Dave to learn how you can be a guest on Behind The Numbers. https://linktr.ee/BehindTheNumbers 🔹 Check out more of Behind The Numbers on YouTube Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review to help more listeners discover the show! To do so, here are the simple instructions: Open Apple Podcast App.Go to the icons at the bottom of the screen and choose “search” for Behind The Numbers with Dave Bookbinder PodcastClick on the SHOW, not the episode.Scroll all the way down to “Ratings and Reviews”Click on “Write a Review” BEHIND THE NUMBERS IS ENJOYED IN MORE THAN 100 COUNTRIES. THANK YOU FOR MAKING BEHIND THE NUMBERS AMONG THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS GLOBALLY!
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    40 mins
  • Winning with Talent: The Strategy Behind Business Success - Jennifer Thornton

    Winning with Talent: The Strategy Behind Business Success - Jennifer Thornton
    Mar 19 2025
    In this episode of Behind the Numbers, host Dave Bookbinder sits down with Jennifer Thornton, CEO of 304 Coaching and host of the Let’s Fix Leadership podcast, for a deep dive into the critical role of talent strategy in business success. Jennifer shares her journey from retail leadership to becoming a sought-after expert in HR consulting and talent development. Together, they explore how aligning talent strategy with business objectives can drive sustainable growth and resilience. The conversation covers: ✔ The evolving landscape of leadership and how it impacts company culture ✔ Why flexible work environments matter for attracting and retaining top talent ✔ The risks of a “talent cliff” and how to avoid it ✔ Practical strategies for ensuring the right people are in the right roles Whether you’re a business owner, executive, or HR leader, this episode is packed with insights to help you build a stronger, more adaptable organization. Tune in to learn how to future-proof your workforce and create a culture where talent thrives. Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review—it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show! About Jen Thornton: After an exciting 20+ year career in Operations and HR, leading teams across the US, Greater China, Mexico, and the UK, Jennifer launched 304 Consulting.​ Jennifer understands the importance of having a strong Talent Strategy to ensure you have the right people in the right roles with the right skill sets to deliver the business strategy.​ 304 Coaching offers services and consulting to help companies build and execute custom Talent Strategies.​ Jen is credentialed through the International Coaching Federation and holds certifications in several accredited methodologies, including Conversation Intelligence and Gallup Strengths. About the Host: Dave Bookbinder is known as an expert in business valuation and he is the person that business owners and entrepreneurs reach out to when they need to know what their most important assets are worth. Known as a collaborative adviser, Dave has served thousands of client companies of all sizes and industries. Dave is the author of two #1 best-selling books about the impact of human capital (PEOPLE!) on the valuation of a business enterprise called The NEW ROI: Return On Individuals & The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers. He’s on a mission to change the conversation about how the accounting world recognizes the value of people’s contributions to a business enterprise, and to quantify what every CEO on the planet claims: “Our people are this company’s most valuable asset.” Dave’s book, A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know, was recognized as a top new release in Business and Valuation and is designed to provide practical insights and tools to help understand what really drives business value, how to prepare for an exit, and just make better decisions. He’s also the host of the highly rated Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder business podcast which is enjoyed in more than 100 countries. 🔸 Grab Dave’s Books: The New ROI: Return on Individuals | The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers | A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know 🔸 Connect with Dave on LinkedIn 🔸 Connect with Dave on FaceBook 🔸 Follow Dave on Twitter 🔸 Check out www.NEWROI.com for more. 💡 Want to share your insights with the business community? Message Dave to learn how you can be a guest on Behind The Numbers. https://linktr.ee/BehindTheNumbers 🔹 Check out more of Behind The Numbers on YouTube Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review to help more listeners discover the show! To do so, here are the simple instructions: Open Apple Podcast App.Go to the icons at the bottom of the screen and choose “search” for Behind The Numbers with Dave Bookbinder PodcastClick on the SHOW, not the episode.Scroll all the way down to “Ratings and Reviews”Click on “Write a Review” BEHIND THE NUMBERS IS ENJOYED IN MORE THAN 100 COUNTRIES. THANK YOU FOR MAKING BEHIND THE NUMBERS AMONG THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS GLOBALLY!
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    30 mins
  • What Makes You Different Makes You Valuable: Barry Labov’s Branding Insights

    What Makes You Different Makes You Valuable: Barry Labov’s Branding Insights
    Mar 11 2025
    In this episode of Behind the Numbers, hosted by Dave Bookbinder, we embark on a journey into the realm of business differentiation with Barry Labov, president of Labov and Beyond Marketing Communications and author of The Power of Differentiation: Win Hearts, Minds, and Market Share. From Rock Musician to Entrepreneur of the Year: Barry shares his inspiring path, transitioning from a rock musician to achieving Entrepreneur of the Year status. He discusses how his background shaped his approach to marketing and business strategy. The Essence of Differentiation: Barry emphasizes the critical role of differentiation in business success. He explores how identifying and celebrating unique brand traits can propel businesses forward in competitive markets. Discovering Unique Selling Propositions: Barry reveals how his company helps businesses uncover their inherent differentiation. He shares anecdotes, including a transformative experience with a family bakery, illustrating the power of discovering and promoting unique selling propositions. Impact of Customer Experience: The conversation dives into the significance of customer experience and its direct influence on brand perception and market positioning. Engaging Employees for Business Success: Barry discusses the importance of promoting differentiation both internally among employees and externally to the market. He explores how engaging employees can enhance overall business value and customer satisfaction. Tune in to gain insights into why differentiating your brand is crucial in today’s competitive landscape and how strategic differentiation can drive business growth and customer loyalty. Subscribe to Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder on your favorite podcast platform so you never miss an episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please share it with your network and leave a review—it helps more business owners and advisors discover the show! About Barry LaBov Barry LaBov, a two-time Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year, is a celebrated author, speaker, and brand strategist. With a core emphasis on differentiation, Barry advocates for leaders to unearth and champion their brand’s distinctiveness to win market share and the hearts of the people who represent it. His book, “The Power of Differentiation. Win Hearts, Minds and Market Share,” distributed by Simon and Schuster, embodies this philosophy. Heis the founder of LABOV, a renowned marketing training firm serving blue-chip clients, and author of The Power of Differentiation: Win Hearts, Minds, and Market Share. About the Host: Dave Bookbinder is known as an expert in business valuation and he is the person that business owners and entrepreneurs reach out to when they need to know what their most important assets are worth. Known as a collaborative adviser, Dave has served thousands of client companies of all sizes and industries. Dave is the author of two #1 best-selling books about the impact of human capital (PEOPLE!) on the valuation of a business enterprise called The NEW ROI: Return On Individuals & The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers. He’s on a mission to change the conversation about how the accounting world recognizes the value of people’s contributions to a business enterprise, and to quantify what every CEO on the planet claims: “Our people are this company’s most valuable asset.” Dave’s book, A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know, was recognized as a top new release in Business and Valuation and is designed to provide practical insights and tools to help understand what really drives business value, how to prepare for an exit, and just make better decisions. He’s also the host of the highly rated Behind The Numbers With Dave Bookbinder business podcast which is enjoyed in more than 100 countries. 🔸 Grab Dave’s Books: The New ROI: Return on Individuals | The NEW ROI: Going Behind The Numbers | A Valuation Toolbox for Business Owners and Their Advisors: Things Every Business Owner Should Know 🔸 Connect with Dave on LinkedIn 🔸 Connect with Dave on FaceBook 🔸 Follow Dave on Twitter 🔸 Check out www.NEWROI.com for more. 💡 Want to share your insights with the business community? Message Dave to learn how you can be a guest on Behind The Numbers. https://linktr.ee/BehindTheNumbers 🔹 Check out more of Behind The Numbers on YouTube Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review to help more listeners discover the show! To do so, here are the simple instructions: Open Apple Podcast App.Go to the icons at the bottom of the screen and choose “search” for Behind The Numbers with Dave Bookbinder PodcastClick on the SHOW, not the episode.Scroll all the way down to “Ratings and Reviews”Click on “Write a Review” BEHIND THE NUMBERS IS ENJOYED IN MORE THAN 100 COUNTRIES. THANK YOU FOR MAKING BEHIND THE NUMBERS AMONG THE MOST POPULAR PROGRAMS GLOBALLY!
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