In a world consumed by screens and distractions, how do we cultivate a deep, personal relationship with Jesus? In this episode, host Brian Daniel sits down with author and counselor John Eldredge to explore the impact of technology on our spiritual lives and what it truly means to follow Christ in today’s culture.

John unpacks the essence of discipleship, emphasizing the need for genuine communion with God and the beauty of love in faith. He introduces the concept of ordinary mysticism—experiencing God’s presence in everyday life—and discusses how embracing this reality can transform the way we engage with Him. The conversation also tackles the growing challenge of apathy in faith and how understanding our union with Christ can reignite passion and purpose in our spiritual journey. Ultimately, John points us back to the heart of God as our true refuge, encouraging believers to pursue a life of deep, transformative discipleship.

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