In this episode of The Mindcast Show, we sit down with William “Billy” Hoover, former Deputy Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), for a candid and compelling conversation about life behind the scenes of federal law enforcement. With a career spanning decades and a résumé that touches nearly every level of American policing—from small-town deputy to the second-highest office in the ATF—Billy brings a rare perspective on justice, leadership, and the complexity of public service.

From his early days as a sheriff’s deputy in rural Virginia to navigating the pressures of national operations at the ATF, Billy shares the pivotal experiences that shaped his approach to law enforcement. We dive into his time leading field divisions across the country, overseeing firearms training, and ultimately serving as the ATF’s Deputy Director during one of its most scrutinized eras.

Billy also opens up about the challenges and controversies that come with leadership in a high-stakes environment, including his role during the fallout of Operation Fast and Furious—a moment in his career that tested both his values and his resilience.

This episode offers a rare window into the human side of federal law enforcement. Whether you're curious about the realities of policing, the evolution of firearm regulation in America, or the weight of decision-making at the national level, Billy’s story is filled with honesty, hard-earned insight, and a deep sense of duty. Tune in for a powerful discussion on integrity, accountability, and what it means to serve.