politics is violence

so long story short, all forms of state are evil because they are require evil to be enforced. anarchy it is then...

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Aristotle has another hit on his hands.

Timeless and very timely especially the section on autocracy and autocrats. Important to see how easily democracy canbe lost.

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Timeless

All philosophers and prophets are the children of Aristotle. Only an Aristotle could write such a book.
Do read / listen to it. every possible way of conducting a political system is explained here with all of it's advantages and flaws.

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Timeless wisdom

Aristotle is a genius. He approaches questions that still face us today with careful deliberation and without pretention.

Whether you're looking to improve household management or refine political ideology, this book is a mandatory read.

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Required college reading

Required reading in many colleges. A very profound text.

But, some parts are antiquated. For instance Book VII, Chapter XVI, "the proper time for a woman to marry is eighteen, for a man thirty-seven." Paternalistic? Yes!

Other parts are very insightful and hold true to this day. For instance Book VII, Chapter XI, "the demagogue in the democracy, for he is the proper flatterer of the people; among tyrants, he who will servilely adapt himself to their humours; for this is the business of flatterers. And for this reason tyrants always love the worst of wretches, for they rejoice in being flattered, which no man of a liberal spirit will submit to; for they love the virtuous, but flatter none. Bad men too are fit for bad purposes; "like to like," as the proverb says. A tyrant also should show no favour to a man of worth or a freeman; for he should think, that no one deserved to be thought these but himself; for he who supports his dignity, and is a friend to freedom, encroaches upon the superiority and the despotism of the tyrant: such men, therefore, they naturally hate, as destructive to their government. A tyrant also should rather admit strangers to his table and familiarity than citizens, as these are his enemies, but the others have no design against him."

All this coming from a book written in the 400's AD. Fully sixteen hundred years ago. Some things never change.

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Mildly Interesting

What did you like best about Politics? What did you like least?

Sometimes Aristotle had interesting things to say about what causes stability in governments and the bit at the end about education was kind of interesting. He also has an unfortunate tendency to meander extensively and repeat himself, however.

What do you think your next listen will be?

Finishing up Hamlet, Prince of Denmark: A Novel, which is much more entertaining than this was, and then on to Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea.

Have you listened to any of Matthew Josdal’s other performances before? How does this one compare?

I have not, but this performance was impressive. Aristotle is hard to read, and his inflection was a great tool in understanding Aristotle's convoluted sentences.

Could you see Politics being made into a movie or a TV series? Who should the stars be?

Haha, no. It would just be one guy droning on about different forms of government.

Any additional comments?

Read this for a class on Classical Political Theory. Would not necessarily recommend it to the casual listener - mostly just Classicists and PoliSci students.

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fascinating

Although I disagree with most things said, I appreciate the indepth explanations of different ideas.

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Aristotle Lives Again!

First of all, Mathew Josdal nailed the narration. I'd actually read snippets of Politics before and found them interesting but somewhat dull; Josdal's narration makes Politics feel like your favorite Poli-Sci professor's lectures on political theory. Bravo! I'm currently listening to the Ethics but plan to come back to Politics for a second listen.

Aristotle's discussion about the working of different political systems is most useful in understanding the political environment of ancient Greece, but many of the questions he addresses are still relevant today: How should various types of governments be ideally structured? What are some of the strengths and weaknesses of Democracy? How should we manage income inequality? Aristotle explores these questions and many more with a sense of logic and clarity of thought almost unparalleled in the history of literature. What’s more, the answers he came up with are still compelling 2,000 years later.

I really enjoyed Aristotle's discussion on constitutional republics (notably Carthage), and found it interesting how he judged them to be superior to Oligarchy or Democracy. One thing that may annoy modern readers is the author's occasional sexist remarks, but then again it isn't really fair to use today's standards to judge those from a different age under different societal norms.

To get the most out of this book, I recommend listeners first acquaint themselves with Plato's Republic and Thucydides' History of the Peloponnesian War (both available on Audible). Thucydides gives the reader a general background of Greek world as it existed in Aristotle’s day, while The Republic covers many of Plato's political arguments that Aristotle works so hard to refute.

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Excellent!...Aristotle as it should be read...

If you're interested by the works of Aristotle you should definitely go for it ; the reader makes it easy to follow...

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Great ideas, narrator spoke too fast though

There is truly nothing new under the sun in reference to the American political climate in relation to the ideas proposed by Aristotle. It has all been done before! Though the narrator spoke too fast for the ideas to be truly comprehended.

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